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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:41 PM GMT op 30 juli 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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4702. angiest 12:38 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
That earthquake that happened, apperantly 212 ppl felt X on the Modified Mercalli Intensity. Thats worse than anybody felt on the 9.0 in japan!


The Japanese earthquake may have been much further away from inhabited areas. Relatively small earthquakes can have much much higher MMI numbers than an earthquake with a large magnitude, depending on proximity to population. Also, local soil types, etc., can have an effect on the subjective intensity of the earthquake.
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4703. Slamguitar 12:39 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:


I believe you have to post a Blog of your own before you can ignore someone.


It's possible without posting a blog, but it's really buggy.
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4704. BahaHurican 12:39 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Im Costa Rican, just FYI
R u living there, or in another country?
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4705. JLPR2 12:39 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Moving due west.

AL, 91, 2011080100, , BEST, 0, 133N, 565W, 30, 1007, LO,


further west than what I thought. :\
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4706. MiamiHurricanes09 12:39 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting extreme236:


NHC SFC map says the low is closed.
I'm pretty sure the circulation is closed, just rather elongate and not too well-defined.
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4708. extreme236 12:40 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting HuracanKY:


The circulation was better defined earlier. If it's elongated then it can't be that well organized. It needs to become vertically stacked and based on vorticity maps...it isn't.


Im looking at the 850mb and 500mb vort maps and it looks fairly well aligned to me.
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4709. connie1976 12:40 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:



stormW got banned from the blog 456 got too busy with life and the others am not sure


why did storm get banned?
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4711. PcolaDan 12:40 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:

Pacific Tsunami Warning Center doesn't show anything.



To: U.S. West Coast, Alaska, and British Columbia coastal regions
From: NOAA/NWS/West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center
Subject: Tsunami Information Statement #1 issued 07/31/2011 at 4:46PM PDT

A strong earthquake has occurred, but a tsunami IS NOT expected along the California, Oregon, Washington, British Columbia, or Alaska coast. NO tsunami warning, watch or advisory is in effect for these areas.

Based on the earthquake magnitude, location and historic tsunami records, a damaging tsunami IS NOT expected along the California, Oregon, Washington, British Columbia, and Alaska coasts. At coastal locations which have experienced strong ground shaking, local tsunamis are possible due to underwater landslides.

At 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time on July 31, an earthquake with preliminary magnitude 6.8 occurred near the north coast of New Guinea, PNG . (Refer to the United States Geological Survey for official earthquake parameters.)

Pacific coastal regions outside California, Oregon, Washington, British Columbia, and Alaska should refer to the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center messages for information on the event.
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4713. bigeasystormcaster 12:41 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
My analysis of this increasingly disorganized 91L is that it has been battling with the wave preceding it for supremacy and the area of dry air to it's NW. I believe it will remain further south than the previous model runs have indicated due to it's persistent weak status. Also the model runs can be pretty much disregarded since a definitive center is yet to be established and the system is still in it's formative stages.

Forecast:

If it can manage to develop a closed, low-level circulation during the next 12-24 hrs the system should track across northern Carribean WNW turning more NW once it reaches the western edge of Haiti, cross over Eastern Cuba and threaten the SE Bahamas as a strong TS. Depending on the upper-level winds over the eastern US/Western Atlantic at that time (Thursday/Friday) will determine if it will recurve into the Atlantic or or resume a more WNW track and threaten Florida/GOM.

Next update will be Monday PM.
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4714. Patrap 12:42 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.



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4715. msgambler 12:42 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting taco2me61:


Do you think we could send it somewhere else ....



Taco :o)
Ummmm, seeing Ice wants to point it out let him have it......LOL
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4716. extreme236 12:42 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:


further west than what I thought. :\


56.5 doesn't look right to me but whatd I know.
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4717. SAINTHURRIFAN 12:42 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Hey Pat remember isadore and lili stromg waves did not develop till they got in carrib.How about camille and elena remember where they got going?Oh i forgot its etched in stone its going to be strong and go nothwest lol .
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4718. JLPR2 12:43 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
One thing it isn't doing today is developing convection stripes. Convection shape looks more like that of a tropical system.

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4719. stormpetrol 12:43 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
I know 91L looks poorly organized, but it sames to have consolidated with the wave to the west and I would say the new center is around 12.5n/56.5w moving west. I expect to a much more organized system tomorrow morning!

Goodnight!
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4720. extreme236 12:43 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
SAB had it at 53.8W...
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4721. trHUrrIXC5MMX 12:43 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting BahaHurican:
R u living there, or in another country?


----
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4722. MiamiHurricanes09 12:43 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Not surprising that the 18z GFDL is following right in the footsteps of the 18z GFS.
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4723. SLU 12:43 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
This is turning out to be a forecaster's nightmare and it hasn't even formed as yet.

208

WHXX01 KWBC 010038

CHGHUR

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

0038 UTC MON AUG 1 2011



DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.

PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE

AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.



ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR



DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL912011) 20110801 0000 UTC



...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...

110801 0000 110801 1200 110802 0000 110802 1200



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 13.3N 56.5W 13.7N 58.7W 14.2N 60.8W 14.7N 62.9W

BAMD 13.3N 56.5W 13.7N 59.3W 13.8N 61.7W 13.8N 64.0W

BAMM 13.3N 56.5W 13.6N 58.7W 13.8N 60.9W 14.1N 62.9W

LBAR 13.3N 56.5W 13.8N 59.5W 14.5N 62.5W 15.2N 65.2W

SHIP 25KTS 29KTS 36KTS 45KTS

DSHP 25KTS 29KTS 36KTS 45KTS



...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...

110803 0000 110804 0000 110805 0000 110806 0000



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 15.4N 64.7W 17.1N 68.5W 19.6N 72.0W 22.3N 73.8W

BAMD 14.0N 65.8W 15.2N 68.3W 18.4N 70.3W 20.8N 71.9W

BAMM 14.8N 64.5W 16.8N 67.3W 20.2N 69.7W 23.5N 71.1W

LBAR 16.1N 67.5W 18.7N 71.5W 22.7N 74.5W 26.6N 76.5W

SHIP 57KTS 72KTS 76KTS 83KTS

DSHP 57KTS 72KTS 48KTS 54KTS



...INITIAL CONDITIONS...

LATCUR = 13.3N LONCUR = 56.5W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 16KT

LATM12 = 13.0N LONM12 = 53.1W DIRM12 = 276DEG SPDM12 = 16KT

LATM24 = 12.7N LONM24 = 50.0W

WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 75NM WNDM12 = 30KT

CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M

RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM



$$

NNNN

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4724. Patrap 12:44 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
Hey Pat remember isadore and lili stromg waves did not develop till they got in carrib.How about camille and elena remember where they got going?Oh i forgot its etched in stone its going to be strong and go nothwest lol .


Indeed,2002 7 days apart
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4725. JLPR2 12:44 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting extreme236:


56.5 doesn't look right to me but whatd I know.


Considering 91L's past coordinates have been heavily modified I think we will see a readjustment to the east.
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4726. MelbourneTom 12:44 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting prweatherwatcher:
I been reading this blog for 4 years now and I notice that some of the old bloggers arw no longer posting comments...where is Storm W, weather 456,Drakoen and those guys who realy knowa about weather?


I have monitored this blog for over 8 years. Last year it blew up and many of the greats have left. It really is too bad that so many people have to attack others.
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4727. taco2me61 12:44 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting msgambler:
Ummmm, seeing Ice wants to point it out let him have it......LOL


I agree 100% :o)

Taco :o)
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4728. angiest 12:44 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Not surprising that the 18z GFDL is following right in the footsteps of the 18z GFS.


Doesn't GFDL use GFS in some form or fashion?
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4729. MiamiHurricanes09 12:45 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting angiest:


Doesn't GFDL use GFS in some form or fashion?
Yeah, barrows some data from it. I'm not too familiar with it though.
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4730. hurricanehunter27 12:45 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
I shall leave you today with a pridiction, tommorow we will wake up with TS emily, NHC will not have it at that beacuse HH have not gotten data on it yet. So good night everybody, stay safe!
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4731. weathermanwannabe 12:46 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Lots of things going on with this very elongated system and I do not think that NHC is going to declare a TD until they confirm a closed circulation with HH Aircraft. Down to 90% now and the system keeps stretching out so it could take some time at this point IMHO.
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4732. angiest 12:47 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Indeed,2002 7 days apart


Those were very interesting, and as I recall Isidore was one of the more glaring forecast errors by the NHC over the last decade. I am pretty sure they never forecast the sudden landfall on the Yucatan's northwestern coast, followed by the loop it did. You got tropical storm Isidore, didn't you?
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4733. brazocane 12:47 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
The only person on my iggy list is LeMat...bet that will bring some old school bloggers way back...
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4735. ProgressivePulse 12:48 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Not surprising that the 18z GFDL is following right in the footsteps of the 18z GFS.


18ZGFS has upper air data in it. "That's Close"

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4736. kmanhurricaneman 12:48 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
gnight boys and girls, play nice now.
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4737. stormwatcherCI 12:48 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:


Considering 91L's past coordinates have been heavily modified I think we will see a readjustment to the east.
NHC says 13.5N 53W
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4738. PcolaDan 12:48 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting msgambler:
Ummmm, seeing Ice wants to point it out let him have it......LOL


Yea, so there, Ice Ice Baby. ;)
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4739. jonelu 12:49 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting brazocane:
The only person on my iggy list is LeMat...bet that will bring some old school bloggers way back...
I remember him...
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4740. GTcooliebai 12:49 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yeah, barrows some data from it. I'm not too familiar with it though.

The GFDL belongs to Princeton University if I'm not mistaken.
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4741. Tazmanian 12:50 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
AL, 91, 2011080100, , BEST, 0, 133N, 565W, 25, 1009, LO
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4742. Patrap 12:50 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting angiest:


Those were very interesting, and as I recall Isidore was one of the more glaring forecast errors by the NHC over the last decade. I am pretty sure they never forecast the sudden landfall on the Yucatan's northwestern coast, followed by the loop it did. You got tropical storm Isidore, didn't you?


Isidore was a very wet system here..but not much more than a nuisance thankfully.






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4743. hcubed 12:50 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting angiest:


I checked it out too. As far as PLANFALF, that came back to one of Doc's Don blogs. I also could not locate LSM/LSIM.

Hence, my earlier comment about preferring the WAG/SWAG model combo.

Sorry for the now outdated response, had to help unload groceries.


Maybe the Doc should add one more rule to the "rules of the road" listing:

During active periods of hurricane season, anyone referring to non-existent hurricane models or processes will be met with a minimum 24 hour ban.
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4745. stormwatcherCI 12:51 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting Patrap:

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.



Sounds about right for this one too. It's just not getting it together like it should.
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4746. angiest 12:51 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting GTcooliebai:

The GFDL belongs to Princeton University if I'm not mistaken.


Appears to be part of NOAA.

GFDL = Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory.
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4747. MiamiHurricanes09 12:51 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:


18ZGFS has upper air data in it. "That's Close"

Yup, luckily that shortwave kicks it out to sea before it can make landfall, but the timing will have to be perfect.

Too close for comfort.
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4748. JrWeathermanFL 12:52 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
What happened to 91L? WAIT! Let me guess,DMIN.
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4749. SLU 12:52 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting CaribbeanDude2011:


Why do you say?


unpredictable and complexed
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4750. sunlinepr 12:52 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
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4751. stormwatcherCI 12:53 AM GMT op 01 augustus 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
look at the modeles now!!! move to the west
Jason, that is 2:00 this afternoon. Not now.
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