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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:41 PM GMT op 30 juli 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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2901. Walshy 5:07 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Question


With a neutral/negative NAO would the East Coast be safe from future Emily next week?
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2902. jdjnola 5:07 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
could the wave by the islands be the real 91L and the behind gats tagged 92l maybe!!


The wave by the islands is Emily's baby, which she is going to eat for lunch, like a fish (but not a "fish storm"). Gross.
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2904. Patrap 5:07 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Snack decision.


Slim Jim or Fudgesicle?
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2905. bappit 5:07 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Thats no what he means when he is talking to me, you seem to be being a little rude to people today.

My apologies if I seem rude. I'm just interested in factual info.
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2906. HurricaneHunterJoe 5:07 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Looks like HH In the top third of the first disturbance
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2907. AstroHurricane001 5:07 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
I expect a 90 km/h TS for Emily at 5 pm.

Meanwhile, Super Typhoon Muifa regains strength after dropping from a category five and churns toward Okinawa and the Yellow Sea.

There is a greater-than-zero chance of a Fujiwara interaction between Emily and the storm just east of the Windward islands.
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2908. IceCoast 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Wish the Euro would stop showing Muifa hitting Shanghai, population 23,000,000.

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2909. bappit 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Snack decision.


Slim Jim or Fudgesicle?

both?
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2910. K8eCane 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting wxhatt:
There could be Twins headed for Cape Hatteras in time!






Thats ominous wxhatt......and the models mean nothing to some idiots UNLESS the model turns it tward em and then its Gospel
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2911. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Snack decision.


Slim Jim or Fudgesicle?


Definitely Fudgesicle.
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2913. AWeatherLover 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
For anyone who is interested, NHC said invest 91L hasn't strengthened during the daylight hours, cloud tops have warmed, but the disturbance ahead of it - the cloud tops have cooled. Basically said we are dealing with an elongated low pressure region.
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2914. hurricanehunter27 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting bappit:

My apologies if I seem rude. I'm just interested in factual info.
Its fine :)
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2915. msgambler 5:08 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Snack decision.


Slim Jim or Fudgesicle?
Snap into a SlimJim "Ohh Yeah"
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2916. SavannahStorm 5:09 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Snack decision.


Slim Jim or Fudgesicle?


SlimJimsicle- pop it in the freezer for about an hour.
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2917. Hurricanes101 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting cloudburst2011:



baha if that were the case we would never have a fish storm because some hit bermuda and accoding to you it would not be called a fish..nots let forget the azores so if you think about it by your definition we would never have a fish storm lol.


storms that affect Bermuda and the Azores are not fish storms either

the points is the term is used way too often incorrectly
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2918. Tazmanian 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting SavannahStorm:
Decoded recon data in the last 30 minutes:

No decoded data could be found.


Technical difficulties?


am thinking they could have turn it off in tell they are closer
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2919. jdjnola 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
14N52W. No doubt in my mind we have TS Emily:

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2920. wolftribe2009 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
going out to sea


It is too EARLY to say the storm is "going out to sea". Keep in mind that a couple days ago most of the models were MISSING the Bahamas. Now they have inched westward little by little and now are plowing right through them. The models continue to inch westward. The last ones I seen from 8 AM out of 5 models you have "three" of them taking dead aim at Florida.
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2921. MrstormX 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Did NHC hop on-board with the GFS?

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2922. hurricanehunter27 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting SavannahStorm:


SlimJimsicle- pop it in the freezer for about an hour.
Im not sure if i could eat a rock hard slimjim.
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2923. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:10 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AWeatherLover:
For anyone who is interested, NHC said invest 91L hasn't strengthened during the daylight hours, cloud tops have warmed, but the disturbance ahead of it - the cloud tops have cooled. Basically said we are dealing with an elongated low pressure region.


Where did you get that information from?
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2924. MrstormX 5:11 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
NHC Forecast Product:

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2925. wxhatt 5:11 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Let's face it. Storms that get in the Bahamas have a much higher chance of curving northward due to troughing over the easern US. At the time 91L get's there the trough will be in place.
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2926. Patrap 5:11 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Slim Jim it be.

Thanx for the input.

91L Rainbow Color Infrared Loop
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2927. MrstormX 5:11 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
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2928. Hurricanes101 5:12 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting wxhatt:
Let's face it. Storms that get in the Bahamas have a much higher chance of curving northward due to troughing over the easern US. At the time 91L get's there the trough will be in place.


Well thank the Lord you said this, I was about to waste 5 days tracking this storm

*rolls eyes*
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2929. Tazmanian 5:12 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
the HH is not far now from the 1s wave
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2930. Hurricanes101 5:12 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Where did you get that information from?


nowhere, I do not see the NHC saying that anywhere
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2931. VAbeachhurricanes 5:13 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:
NHC Forecast Product:



Thats east of every single model.
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2932. CitikatzSouthFL 5:13 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting wxhatt:


But the model is showing a curve north? How can you say that?



The models will change a gazillion more times before they get a handle on this one. NO guarantee that it will recurve! Don't base everything on just this one model. That's how he can say that! Jeez, just give it a rest. And wait. And watch. And learn. Thanks.
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2933. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:13 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


nowhere, I do not see the NHC saying that anywhere


Me neither...false information?
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2934. Tazmanian 5:13 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AWeatherLover:
For anyone who is interested, NHC said invest 91L hasn't strengthened during the daylight hours, cloud tops have warmed, but the disturbance ahead of it - the cloud tops have cooled. Basically said we are dealing with an elongated low pressure region.


other one too poof
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2935. DirtDan 5:13 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
OMG..... 24 hours later and we don't have a Cat. 3 Hurricane yet..... LOL
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2936. hurricanehunter27 5:14 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Wow 91L is a lovly invest, look at the vortex!

If Convection fires in the center i bet we have a hurricane by Monday.
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2937. Tazmanian 5:14 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Me neither...false information?



yes and i am going too poof him
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2938. dmaddox 5:14 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
why no recon data for nearly an hour!? :( its not showing up on Google Earth or any other sites! :(
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2939. MrstormX 5:14 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
He needs to provide a source with that statement.
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2940. AWeatherLover 5:15 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Where did you get that information from?


I got it from the NHC 1:00 update call. Also would like to note that although they said they won't be starting advisories on it yet, they aren't ruling out the possibility that the HH might find a very small closed low during their investigation. They said that they do expect the two systems to finally merge in the next 24-48 hours, as invest 91L continues to move west, and the disturbance remains fairly stationary.
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2941. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:15 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Wow 91L is a lovly invest, look at the vortex!

If Convection fires in the center i bet we have a hurricane by Monday.


I bet we have Emily right now. If not, this is one of the well-defined tropical depressions I have ever seen. And if it is not a tropical depression, it is the most well-defined invest I've ever seen..

lol.
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2942. Hurricanes101 5:15 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:
He needs to provide a source with that statement.


he probably will say he called someone from the NHC or has a friend there

It is not posted on the NHC site, so I do not buy it, but it is a real shame that he would try and post something like that
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2943. HurricaneHunterJoe 5:16 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
I think the models have trended a bit west,some flipfloping back and forth, all this tells me is, the future track of Emily is not written in concrete. Timing will be the deciding factor IMHO
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2944. Tazmanian 5:16 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting dmaddox:
why no recon data for nearly an hour!? :( its not showing up on Google Earth or any other sites! :(



i have it on google earth there last update is that they where all most too the 1st wave they may wait in tell they get closeer too turn it back on
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2945. NICycloneChaser 5:16 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting jdjnola:
14N52W. No doubt in my mind we have TS Emily:



Looking at that, I completely agree. Very impressive structure.
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2946. hurricanehunter27 5:16 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
OMG FOX news weather fail, they just called 91L Emily.
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2947. Hurricanes101 5:16 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AWeatherLover:


I got it from the NHC 1:00 update call. Also would like to note that although they said they won't be starting advisories on it yet, they aren't ruling out the possibility that the HH might find a very small closed low during their investigation. They said that they do expect the two systems to finally merge in the next 24-48 hours, as invest 91L continues to move west, and the disturbance remains fairly stationary.


If this is true, you are basically saying we need to go away and not watch this, seriously you are
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2948. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:17 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AWeatherLover:


I got it from the NHC 1:00 update call. Also would like to note that although they said they won't be starting advisories on it yet, they aren't ruling out the possibility that the HH might find a very small closed low during their investigation. They said that they do expect the two systems to finally merge in the next 24-48 hours, as invest 91L continues to move west, and the disturbance remains fairly stationary.


Well, it isn't on the NHC site yet, so I'm going to tend not to believe you. We'll see..
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2949. BahaHurican 5:17 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting wxhatt:


But the model is showing a curve north? How can you say that?

Are you showing me a model with NO impacts to the Antilles? Which one is it? Nothing I saw this a.m. left the NE Antilles alone. And considering that's the part of the Caribbean the US actually owns, one would think.... Ah, fagedaboudit.... [gone to eat lunch and take meds]

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2950. TampaFLUSA 5:17 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Unless you have proof, its hearsay.
Quoting AWeatherLover:


I got it from the NHC 1:00 update call. Also would like to note that although they said they won't be starting advisories on it yet, they aren't ruling out the possibility that the HH might find a very small closed low during their investigation. They said that they do expect the two systems to finally merge in the next 24-48 hours, as invest 91L continues to move west, and the disturbance remains fairly stationary.
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2951. wxgeek723 5:18 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
OMG FOX news weather fail, they just called 91L Emily.


You watch that trash? Lol
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