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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:41 PM GMT op 30 juli 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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2451. islander101010 3:21 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
going out on the limb!! both develop the windwds and start dancing and cartwheeling west north west towards florida super fuji the one further out is the origional low but the wave sped out ahead and now has another low attached
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2452. trHUrrIXC5MMX 3:22 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting P451:
Still showing 91L as broad. Yet still showing it attached to the ITCZ? Anyone agree with that?



yes but it won't be there for long
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2453. Dakster 3:22 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting twincomanche:
+1


I disagree- if the NHC were to lose the trust of the people they warn (or serve - since they are a government funded entity) we have "rated" them.
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2454. Tazmanian 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
LOL ... they haven't the "authority" of a flea on a mouse. Give me a break. The only authority when it comes to these storms, is ...


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once we get 91L in too a name storm and then a then a hurricane the Admin starts banneding for any thing that dos not go with this blog like that youtub video


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2455. CanesfanatUT 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AWeatherLover:
I find it interesting that everyone is so sure of themselves in answering that the NHC is waiting for recon to make the upgrade. I'm not saying I do or do not think this is true, but unless they put out a statement saying this, why is everyone repeating it as if it's fact?


It's happened more than once though. That's all people are saying: historical performance.
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2456. MississippiWx 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Vorticity maps confirm what is seen on visible. The circulation is elongated West to East. The reason is that the main wave axis has shot out away from the main area of low pressure. Several models have been indicating this and not developing 91L into a tropical cyclone until it consolidated into one entity. If the tropical wave axis remains out in front of the main low pressure area, it's going to cause a disruption in the circulation for a while to come. If I were the NHC, I wouldn't have classified 91L a tropical cyclone either at 11AM. Recon is going in later and we will have a better idea of what is actually going on in there.

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2457. MyrtleCanes 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
HWRF is showing a DOOM track. Not getting in the way of any large land masses and its heading straight for FL into the GOM. If that happens we could have a major disaster on our hands. Everybody in south FL and NC needs to keep a good eye on this.


S FL now means carolinas next week
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2458. trHUrrIXC5MMX 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
10000000000% chance it will be TD 5 or Emily by 5 PM or earlier on a special advisory
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2459. FLWeatherFreak91 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Moisture's back in Florida again!

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2460. Patrap 3:23 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
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2461. TropicalBruce 3:24 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
The t-wave or disturbance just ahead of 91L may be diverting some of 91L's energy, so it may actually be impeding 91L's development in the short term.
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2463. AWeatherLover 3:24 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting twincomanche:
+1
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
None of us have any authority to "rate" the nhc.



+100
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2464. kmanhurricaneman 3:25 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
leave jason alone: every one is entitled to thier own theories and comments this is a free blogg i have been here years now and even though some people gets on my nerves they are entitled just like my self to make observations it is your responsibility and perogitive to siffer through the BS and make your own conclusions.
As far as i am concerned i find Jason comments refreshing somtimes amusing however he does pst some very informative graphics as chiklet said, there i said my peace.
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2465. hurricanehunter27 3:25 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Guys its so simple why NHC is taking so long at giving 91L TD or TS status. Its beacuse they have not aquired any HH data, thats also why storms close to CONUS get upgraded faster beacuse its less of a flight time and the systeme in question is in rage of the aircraft to do a full sweep of the systeme. So if 91L was actully in rage yesterday we would have TD.
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2466. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 3:25 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
what time do the planes get there in tropical storm emily
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2467. Tazmanian 3:25 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:


I'm getting confused, it's just to much to look at. lol. Trying to learn, but I can't stay focused on 1 area for long, without saying ooh look. This dang ADD/ADHD sux. Plus I have Anheuser disease.



ok
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2468. pottery 3:25 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Cotillion:
Amazing scene at Trent Bridge.

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Anyone have any doubts 91L does have a LLC? Just curious.

I hope the Aussie's were watching that episode.....l.
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2470. HouGalv08 3:26 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Just a quick question. Can somebody find and post the MJO map? Would be interesting to see which phase we are in relative to the Atlantic basin.
My computer at work is limited to what I can do. Thanks
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2471. FLWeatherFreak91 3:26 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Guys its so simple why NHC is taking so long at giving 91L TD or TS status. Its beacuse they have not aquired any HH data, thats also why storms close to CONUS get upgraded faster beacuse its less of a flight time and the systeme in question is in rage of the aircraft to do a full sweep of the systeme. So if 91L was actully in rage yesterday we would have TD.
We may not have a TD right now at all. With or without the plane.
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2472. Tazmanian 3:26 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:



the wave in front of 91L looks like its going under a RI
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2473. texwarhawk 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Look guys the NHC is not saying there is no chance this wont develop they are saying there is very little (hence the NEAR 100%). Also it became near 100% last night that means it still has 36hrs to become organized before you can call NHC stupid for saying 100% if it doesn't develop. Be patient, stop thinking if it doesn't happen now then the NHC was wrong because it isn't.

And about the Islands. No one on any island is really going to care if its a tropical storm or nothing. Unless hurricane is in the name then it wont be on people's lips outside of the weather community. I'm also certain that it is in their newspaper and on there news. They can take care of themselves without NHC holding their hand. All the NHC does to the mass majority is tell them where, when, and how bad. So please calm down on this "NHC is doing a terrible job."
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2474. Cavin Rawlins 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Visible images show a very well define rotation centered near 13.7N/51.9W. In my opinion this is a depression already but the authorities are awaiting confirmation from the aircraft. Watches and warnings may be posted at the last minute so I hope my sisters and brothers are prepared for this one.
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2475. Patrap 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Typhoon Muifa




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2476. CanesfanatUT 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting lucreto:


Lol that is absolutely absurd the LSM is only show a .05% chance of a Fujiwara at all much less a dancing one to Florida.


How do you have access to this experimental stuff??
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2477. TropicalAnalystwx13 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting HouGalv08:
Just a quick question. Can somebody find and post the MJO map? Would be interesting to see which phase we are in relative to the Atlantic basin.
My computer at work is limited to what I can do. Thanks


Here is the current MJO...Upward phase across the Atlantic basin.

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2478. ProgressivePulse 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting P451:
Still showing 91L as broad. Yet still showing it attached to the ITCZ? Anyone agree with that?




Looking at cimss850, it's obvious to see which circulation is dominant and very little low level turning with the associated wave. You can also make out the ITCZ in the image and easterlies associated with the ITCZ are noted in visible. Still attached however, looks to be pulling away ATM as easterlies are now running under 91L.

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2479. BaltOCane 3:27 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:



the wave in front of 91L looks like its going under a RI


no Taz, it's not.
there is no RI going on anywhere.
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2480. WxLogic 3:28 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
HH has left:

Product: Air Force High Density (HDOB) Message (URNT15 KNHC)
Transmitted: 31st day of the month at 15:21Z
Date: July 31, 2011
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 304)
Mission Purpose: Investigate fourth suspect area (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 1
Observation Number: 01
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2481. Cavin Rawlins 3:28 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Visible loops

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html
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2482. MrstormX 3:28 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Weather456:
Visible images show a very well define rotation centered near 13.7N/51.9W. In my opinion this is a depression already but the authorities are awaiting confirmation from the aircraft. Watches and warnings may be posted at the last minute so I hope my sisters and brothers are prepared for this one.


Wow, shocked to see you here!
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2483. Cotillion 3:28 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting pottery:

I hope the Aussie's were watching that episode.....l.


Yes. I've never seen a crowd that hostile at a cricket match, particularly in England. Then, the delight erupting!

Full credit to Dhoni, wonderful sportsmanship. Should be considered cricketer of the year for that single decision. Other captains would not have done that.

Yes... the Aussies and that underarm bowl of 1981... (though I suspect every country has their unsportsmanlike moments).

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Given the proximity to the islands and the JHR, this HH flight is going to be interesting than normal for an invest.
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2484. TropicalAnalystwx13 3:28 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Weather456:
Visible images show a very well define rotation centered near 13.7N/51.9W. In my opinion this is a depression already but the authorities are awaiting confirmation from the aircraft. Watches and warnings may be posted at the last minute so I hope my sisters and brothers are prepared for this one.


I agree. As everyone else has said, the National Hurricane Center is waiting for recon to confirm their thinking that this is a tropical depression or tropical storm.
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2485. trHUrrIXC5MMX 3:28 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
so they need the plane to confirm it's TD 5? It's not gonna go puff if they classify it now, is that the concern for NHC?
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2486. CanesfanatUT 3:29 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Weather456:
Visible images show a very well define rotation centered near 13.7N/51.9W. In my opinion this is a depression already but the authorities are awaiting confirmation from the aircraft. Watches and warnings may be posted at the last minute so I hope my sisters and brothers are prepared for this one.


Welcome back sir! What do you think of 91L's track/intensity?
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2487. ackee 3:29 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
I think the wave will merge with 91L guess we see
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2488. WeatherNerdPR 3:29 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Weather456:
Visible images show a very well define rotation centered near 13.7N/51.9W. In my opinion this is a depression already but the authorities are awaiting confirmation from the aircraft. Watches and warnings may be posted at the last minute so I hope my sisters and brothers are prepared for this one.

Agreed.
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2489. thedawnawakening3 3:29 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
I think this will be TD5 by 2pm and TS Emily by 11pm. Satellite imagery shows that the wave axis out ahead of the main circulation of 91L is not impeding development given that the circulation continues to organize. This is the best this system has looked throughout its lifetime as a disturbance.
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2490. MrstormX 3:30 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
so they need the plane to confirm it's TD 5? It's not gonna go puff if they classify it now, is that the concern for NHC?


There is nothing wrong with a little reassurance, right?
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2491. weatherguy03 3:30 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AWeatherLover:
I find it interesting that everyone is so sure of themselves in answering that the NHC is waiting for recon to make the upgrade. I'm not saying I do or do not think this is true, but unless they put out a statement saying this, why is everyone repeating it as if it's fact? It's just speculation that that's what they are waiting for. The reality is that they may or may not be waiting for recon because they may or may not think it has a closed surface low at the moment. All that matters currently is that we do not have a TD at the moment, we have Invest 91L. I'd appreciate it if everyone would stop referring to the system as Pre-Emily, as it has not been named Emily, and this could confuse some.


Jim Cantore..."Invest 91L (#Emily) still has a lot of "issues" before it becomes a self sustaining system. The longer this takes the less the impacts."

Jim Cantore..."My friends in the Windward Islands are very aware what is coming at them. Still expecting #Emily sometime soon. Impacts unavoidable."

Stop saying Emily Jim!!! You heard her!!!:-)
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2492. ProgressivePulse 3:30 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
ULAC is also re-establishing itself over 91L.

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2493. FLWeatherFreak91 3:30 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
St. Lucia and Martinique are about to get the strongest wave of the year so far.
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2494. MrstormX 3:30 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting ackee:
I think the wave will merge with 91L guess we see


That does look like a possibility, imo they are to close to develop separately.
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2495. TropicalAnalystwx13 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
so they need the plane to confirm it's TD 5? It's not gonna go puff if they classify it now, is that the concern for NHC?


They are going to have recon confirm their thinking.
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2496. MyrtleCanes 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting K8eCane:
Does anyone remember StormJunkie and PressLord...where are they??


romper room ran them off
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2497. VAbeachhurricanes 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Weather456:
Visible images show a very well define rotation centered near 13.7N/51.9W. In my opinion this is a depression already but the authorities are awaiting confirmation from the aircraft. Watches and warnings may be posted at the last minute so I hope my sisters and brothers are prepared for this one.


Well look who the cat drug in!!
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2498. 7544 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
91L had a twin could that becom 92l first if thats right some ones in for a 1/2 punch hope the islands are watching out
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2499. Tazmanian 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
all so other thing too think of is that the wave in front of 91L could hock on too that wave and pull it a long with it if it dos that then we may a hole new ball game with the mode runs
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2500. Cotillion 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
so they need the plane to confirm it's TD 5? It's not gonna go puff if they classify it now, is that the concern for NHC?


Everyone has their theories. I suspect, personally, that the NHC isn't 100% certain. Given the proximity to the islands especially, they would not waste a moment to declare it a TD\TS if they had all the data confirming it. Now, if it had just tightened up enough within an hour or two, then perhaps they would wait. They wouldn't wait half a day if they were sure.

Just my 2 cents\pence.
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2501. weatherguy03 3:31 PM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
If Weather456 is here its a TD already!!!!..LOL
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