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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:41 PM GMT op 30 juli 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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1102. chevycanes 2:21 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
there is definitely dry air affecting it. run water vapor loop of the whole Atlantic and you can see the outflow to the north being chocked off.

Angela mentions it in this very blog this afternoon. nothing has changed and it is still there.

here are her exact words" Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification."

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1103. Patrap 2:22 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
HH Plan of the Day

000
NOUS42 KNHC 301630
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1230 PM EDT SAT 30 JULY 2011
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 31/1100Z JULY TO 01/1100Z AUGUST 2011
TCPOD NUMBER.....11-060

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (CENTRAL ATLANTIC)
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 31/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01EEA INVEST
C. 31/1530Z
D. 14.5N 56.0W
E. 31/1730Z TO 31/2330Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO -- NOAA 49
A. 01/0000Z
B. NOAA9 02EEA SURV
C. 31/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 71
A. 01/0600Z,1200Z
B. AFXXX 0305A CYCLONE
C. 01/0400Z
D. 15.2N 58.1W
E. 01/0530Z TO 01/1200Z
F. SFC TO 10,0000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY:
A. CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM DEVELOPS.
B. POSSIBLE NOAA G-IV MISSION FOR 02/0000Z.
3. REMARKS:
A. IF SYSTEM DOES NOT DEVELOP, FLIGHT THREE
WILL BECOME A 01/1200Z INVEST MISSION.
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1104. hunkerdown 2:23 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
000
ABNT20 KNHC 302332
TWOAT

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SAT JUL 30 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THE SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A
LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM CENTERED ABOUT 750 MILES EAST OF THE
LESSER ANTILLES HAS CONTINUED TO BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED...AND A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM LATER TONIGHT OR SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM
IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 15 TO 20 MPH AND HAS A HIGH
CHANCE...90 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS. AN AIR FORCE PLANE IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THIS
DISTURBANCE SUNDAY AFTERNOON. INTERESTS IN THE LESSER ANTILLES
SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A WESTWARD MOVING TROPICAL
WAVE ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD OVER CENTRAL AMERICA AND YUCATAN
TONIGHT AND SUNDAY. NO DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED DUE TO ITS
INTERACTION WITH LAND. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR
0 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA
Patm they are just the NHC, what do they know ?? You know these teenagers/pre-teens all know better :)
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1106. Tazmanian 2:23 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
HH Plan of the Day

000
NOUS42 KNHC 301630
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1230 PM EDT SAT 30 JULY 2011
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 31/1100Z JULY TO 01/1100Z AUGUST 2011
TCPOD NUMBER.....11-060

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (CENTRAL ATLANTIC)
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 31/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01EEA INVEST
C. 31/1530Z
D. 14.5N 56.0W
E. 31/1730Z TO 31/2330Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO -- NOAA 49
A. 01/0000Z
B. NOAA9 02EEA SURV
C. 31/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 71
A. 01/0600Z,1200Z
B. AFXXX 0305A CYCLONE
C. 01/0400Z
D. 15.2N 58.1W
E. 01/0530Z TO 01/1200Z
F. SFC TO 10,0000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY:
A. CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM DEVELOPS.
B. POSSIBLE NOAA G-IV MISSION FOR 02/0000Z.
3. REMARKS:
A. IF SYSTEM DOES NOT DEVELOP, FLIGHT THREE
WILL BECOME A 01/1200Z INVEST MISSION.




olny 5,000 commets more tooo go pat
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1107. Tazmanian 2:24 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting hunkerdown:
Patm they are just the NHC, what do they know ?? You know these teenagers/pre-teens all know better :)




the nhc may have more maps and modes that we can ues
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1108. JrWeathermanFL 2:24 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Have some thoughts running around in my head,
Poll Time:
What advisory will 91L be classified TD 5 / Emily?
(A) 11 PM
(B) 5 AM
(C) 11 AM
(D) 5 PM
(E) 11 PM or Later
(F) 91L will not develop(For those Downcasters out there)

How strong do you think Emily be?
(A) Tropical Storm
(B) Category 1
(C) Category 2
(D) Category 3
(E) Category 4
(F) Category 5 (For the Hypecasters)

How Many Storms do you think will form in August?
(A) None
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4
(F) 5 or More (Never out of possibility)

When will our next storm form after Emily?
(A) 2 to 5 days
(B) A Week
(C) 2 Weeks
(D) 3 Weeks
(E) A Month (LOL, Yeah, Right... Possible, but less likely)

My opinion are in BOLD

B,E,E,B
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1109. sailingallover 2:24 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Lack of convection is caused by lack of heat(plenty of that)
shear-blow it away(almost none of that)
lack of moisture--REALLY look around it..like 100 miles outside the circulation or 150 even..
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1110. Patrap 2:24 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
I feel a "pre"-beer coming in my future,,like in 1-2 minutes
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1111. FrankZapper 2:25 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
So, it's a wait and see game.

Not Emily.......... But THE BUDGET CRISIS. Still is a yellow circle!
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1113. chevycanes 2:25 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
nice wave emerging off Africa.

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1114. CosmicEvents 2:26 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:
Anybody think TD5 or Emily at 11:00?
TD at 11????
.
.
.
hmmmm
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1115. hunkerdown 2:26 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting 2005nostalgia:

Zero percent chance.

99.9999999999% chance 91L will be TD5 or Emily at precisely, the 5 PM advisory tomorrow. 97% of classifications historically (last decade or so) seem to happen at 5 PM.
Mr. Nostalgia, please, do provide your evidence...
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1117. Boco12 2:26 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
I'm slightly confused. JMA lists the maximum wind speed of Typhoon Muifa at 95kts. How does that connect to its current Cat4/Cat5 status? Or is the maximum wind gust speed our form of 1-min sustained winds? TIA
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1118. FrankZapper 2:27 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
I feel a "pre"-beer coming in my future,,like in 1-2 minutes
That's a red circle?
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1119. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:27 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Remember guys, 91L still meets all the qualifications to become a tropical depression. What the NHC is waiting for is recon to go investigate the system tomorrow afternoon. If they declare it before then, it is because it is a threat to the NE Caribbean islands. Let's not forget that...
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1120. hunkerdown 2:28 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting FrankZapper:
So, it's a wait and see game.

Not Emily.......... But THE BUDGET CRISIS. Still is a yellow circle!
uh, I believe a red crayon is in order for that. Sure hope FEMA is needed in the near future...
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1121. rod2635 2:28 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting lovemamatus:
Rod....excellent read...you are correct. Even with lower McTavish factors ( which Lucreto could be right about)...a bi-lateral onus is sure to make up for the dry air.

All systems GO with Emily. Unfortunately, it will be an unmitigated disaster for the NC/SC coastline.


Thanks. Afraid you are correct. I am speculating and really going out on a limb here, but Myrtle Beach area and high Cat 2.
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1123. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:29 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
There is only one reason for the lack of convection - the lack of convergence. The fact that Don struggled with convection because it didn't have convergence is evidence in itself.
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1124. Hurricanejer95 2:29 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
HurricaneDean07's Poll:
C D E A
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1126. chevycanes 2:30 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting rod2635:


Thanks. Afraid you are correct. I am speculating and really going out on a limb here, but Myrtle Beach area and high Cat 2.

lol. of course you are speculating cause no one knows where this thing is going right now.
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1127. TampaSpin 2:30 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Remember guys, 91L still meets all the qualifications to become a tropical depression. What the NHC is waiting for is recon to go investigate the system tomorrow afternoon. If they declare it before then, it is because it is a threat to the NE Caribbean islands. Let's not forget that...



That is not quite accurate. They can bring it to Tropical Depression status at anypoint they see a Closed Surface Low. Not just because it is a threat. That is Non-sense!
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1128. GTcooliebai 2:30 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/nor thatlantic/track_early1.png I hope this works and doesn't mess up the blog, but if it does looks like there is some consensus, and as wunderkidcayman eluded too a slight shift to the south and west.
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1129. IKE 2:31 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    

Quoting 2005nostalgia:
You can never trust the models. Ike...remember when they had Frances going out to sea east of Bermuda and Bill of 2009 going into the Caribbean. And Katrina into the Big Bend. The list goes on and on.
I trust models more than I do most humans.

This looks pretty definite....could be an east coast hugger....where's Reedzone?





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1130. Chicklit 2:31 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
It appears that 91L has detached from its anticyclone.

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1131. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:31 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:



That is not quite accurate. They can bring it to Tropical Depression status at anypoint they see a Closed Surface Low. Not just because it is a threat. That is Non-sense!


That's true. But, the NHC tends to classify things a lot quicker when there is a threat to land areas.
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1132. AussieStorm 2:31 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Which tropical cyclone intensified the fastest?

Contributed by Chris Landsea

Hurricane Wilma in 2005 went from 954 mb to 901 mb in a 5 hour 23 minute period for a 9.8 mb/hr pressure drop. The winds went from 70 to 82 m/s (130 kt to 160 kt, 150 mph to 184 mph) in that period. Hurricane Beulah in 1967 underwent a 6.33 mb/hr drop over a six hour period.

In the West Pacific, Typhoon Forrest in September 1983 deepened by 100 mb (976 to 876 mb) in just under 24 hr (Roger Edson, personal communication) . Estimated surface sustained winds increased a maximum of 15 m/s (30 kt, 35 mph) in 6 hr and 44 m/s (85 kt, 98 mph) in one day (from 33 to 77 m/s [65 to 150 kt, 75 to 173 mph]).

This would make Typhoon Muifa no as fast. But would be interesting to find out how fast it dropped.
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1133. sailingallover 2:32 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
look at the image below..Dry air from the south...even some of the coast of South America

Yes maybe NOAA will tell you what will probably happen when they are pretty sure it will happen. But they don't look at ouliers and sometimes they miss things like the cold front that cut of the back of Danille last year and forced earl south..then suddenly the models jump..
Or Olga which they called a STS after the fact which I saved three boats from because I knew it would be bad..

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1135. TampaSpin 2:33 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
There is only one reason for the lack of convection - the lack of convergence. The fact that Don struggled with convection because it didn't have convergence is evidence in itself.


The Lack of Convection is mainly due to the dry air as you can see here!


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1136. HurricaneDean07 2:33 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Good night everyone, and will wake up to Emily..
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1137. PcolaDan 2:34 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting P451:


I saw a flight run earlier today...from the Gulf coast ending around 18z in the islands. I'm guessing they made the hop to get started from closer in.

There was a second flight but it wasn't active - just sitting in the same location on the Gulf coast.

Both were "non-tasked".

Just getting into position I suppose.



One positioned itself in St. Croix earlier today.
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1138. 7544 2:34 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
are the new runs shifing south and west now tia

no td at 11 91l is reasting now going to get dress aat dmax tho
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1139. TropicalAnalystwx13 2:34 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Which tropical cyclone intensified the fastest?

Contributed by Chris Landsea

Hurricane Wilma in 2005 went from 954 mb to 901 mb in a 5 hour 23 minute period for a 9.8 mb/hr pressure drop. The winds went from 70 to 82 m/s (130 kt to 160 kt, 150 mph to 184 mph) in that period. Hurricane Beulah in 1967 underwent a 6.33 mb/hr drop over a six hour period.

In the West Pacific, Typhoon Forrest in September 1983 deepened by 100 mb (976 to 876 mb) in just under 24 hr (Roger Edson, personal communication) . Estimated surface sustained winds increased a maximum of 15 m/s (30 kt, 35 mph) in 6 hr and 44 m/s (85 kt, 98 mph) in one day (from 33 to 77 m/s [65 to 150 kt, 75 to 173 mph]).

This would make Typhoon Muifa no as fast. But would be interesting to find out how fast it dropped.


Major hurricane Wilma went from tropical storm status to Category 5 status in 24 hours. Mufia did that 6 hours quicker, in 18 hours.
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1140. GTcooliebai 2:34 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/n or thatlantic/track_early1.png I hope this works and doesn't mess up the blog, but if it does looks like there is some consensus, and as wunderkidcayman eluded too a slight shift to the south and west.
I guess the chart is not gonna show...its probably because I'm using Android.
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1141. hunkerdown 2:34 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting IKE:

I trust models more than I do most humans.

This looks pretty definite....could be an east coast hugger....where's Reedzone?





drafting up another of those Long Island Express graphics...
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1143. beell 2:35 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
a wedge of drier air from SW to NE from 10N 55W to 15N 55W splitting the storm. Maybe some higher SW shear values along this axis also.



click for loop
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1145. trHUrrIXC5MMX 2:36 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Another Emily like 2005? Im pretty scared here in the NE in case Emily turns up near the coast.

Any model display yet?
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1146. Patrap 2:37 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
00z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
Invest91 Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)




Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)




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1147. TampaSpin 2:37 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Honestly the future Emily really needs to organize very soon in order to Make that move to the NOrth......if the 91L stays below Hurricane status she might just barrel through the Caribbean and never make that big hook turn. Weak storm stays South.....Strong storm moves North.....you all better be hoping for a stronger storm soon.
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1149. JrWeathermanFL 2:38 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Do you think that possible Emily has a chance of becoming a Cat.5?

Do you think possible Emily could pull a Gaston?(Supposed to become a Cat 1 and beyond but fizzled)
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1150. sailingallover 2:38 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Remember guys, 91L still meets all the qualifications to become a tropical depression. What the NHC is waiting for is recon to go investigate the system tomorrow afternoon. If they declare it before then, it is because it is a threat to the NE Caribbean islands. Let's not forget that...
To be classified a Tropical depression it needs sustained convection. Emily does not have that yet..
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1151. Vincent4989 2:39 AM GMT op 31 juli 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:


The Lack of Convection is mainly due to the dry air as you can see here!



Not to mention DMIN.
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