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Tropical Depression Fifteen forms in the Caribbean
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:32 PM GMT op 23 september 2010 +4
Tropical Depression Fifteen is here, and is destined to become Tropical Storm Matthew by late this afternoon or this evening. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft left the storm near 2pm EDT this afternoon, and on their final pass through the strong northeast quadrant of the storm, found a substantial area of surface winds of 40 - 45 mph with their SFMR instrument. Top flight level winds at 500 feet were 48 mph. These winds support upgrading TD 15 to Tropical Storm Matthew. Satellite loops show that TD 15's heavy thunderstorm activity continues to increase in intensity and areal coverage, with several respectable low-level spiral bands in evidence. There is some dry air to the northwest of TD 15, but it is currently not significantly affecting development.


Figure 1. TD 15 at 11:50am EDT 9/23/10, as seen by NASA's Terra satellite.

Forecast for TD 15
An upper-level high pressure system lies to the west of TD 15, near the coast of Nicaragua. The clockwise flow of air around this high will bring a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear over TD 15 today and Friday. There is some dry continental air lying to the northwest of TD 15, and this shear may be able to drive dry air into the storm, slowing intensification and keeping TD 15 below hurricane strength through Saturday morning. By Saturday afternoon, TD 15 will move more underneath this upper-level high, causing the shear to decline. The SHIPS model forecasts that shear will fall to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, Saturday through Monday. This drop in shear should allow for intensification of TD 15 into a hurricane, if the center stays more than 50 miles offshore.

The future track and intensity of TD 15 depends critically upon the storm's interaction with land over the coming days. If TD 15 misses making landfall in Nicaragua and Honduras, and instead skirts the north coast of Honduras, the storm is likely to intensify into a hurricane by Sunday, as indicated in the official NHC forecast. However, if TD 15 spends significant time over or barely offshore of Honduras, the storm will likely stay below hurricane strength. TD 15 is being forced just north of due west by a strong ridge of high pressure. This ridge will keep the storm moving at 15 mph through Saturday. On Sunday, a trough of low pressure diving southwards over the Eastern U.S. will weaken the steering currents over the Western Caribbean and cause TD 15 to slow and turn more to the north. TD 15 will begin a period of slow and erratic movement on Sunday that may last many days, as the storm wanders in the Western Caribbean and over Belize, Honduras, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. If the center of TD 15 spends significant time over water, the storm could easily develop into powerful and dangerous Hurricane Matthew. If the center remains mostly over land, TD 15 will still generate extremely heavy rains over Central America, but remain below hurricane strength. By late next week, the trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. may lift out, allowing a ridge of high pressure to build in and force TD 15 westwards across the Yucatan Peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche. Alternatively, the trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. may amplify, drawing TD 15 northwards across Western Cuba and into Florida. A complicating factor may be the development of a new tropical depression in the Central Caribbean 6 - 8 days from now, as predicted by both the GFS and NOGAPS models with their latest 12Z (8am EDT) runs. The uncertainties in the long-range fate of TD 15 are high, and depend strongly on slight variations in its track that determine how much time the storm spends over land. One thing that is virtually certain is that TD 15 will generate very heavy rains over Nicaragua, Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula Friday through Tuesday that will cause dangerous flooding rains and life-threatening mudslides.

Tropical Depression Lisa
Tropical Depression Lisa continues to churn the waters of the far Eastern Atlantic. By Saturday night, upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over Lisa. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The remnants of Hurricane Julia are still spinning over the far Eastern Atlantic, and are generating some sporadic heavy thunderstorm to the north of the center of circulation. Julia's remains are being given a 10% chance of re-developing by NHC.

Hurricane Karl's moisture causing flooding in Minnesota, Wisconsin
A plume of very moist air associated with what was Hurricane Karl last week has surged northwards over the Central U.S. over the past two days. This moisture is now being lifted over a warm front draped over Minnesota and Wisconsin, and has generated flooding rains in excess of six inches in southern Minnesota this afternoon. Flood warnings and flood watches are posted for a wide swath of the upper Midwest today, including most of southern Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, and Michigan's Upper Peninsula. These types of rain events are called Predecessor Rain Events (PREs), because they typically precede the actual arrival of the rain shield of a tropical storm.


Figure 2. Radar estimated rainfall over Minnesota.

Next post
I'll have an update on TD 15 Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1302. Dakster 12:41 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:



Thank you. We do have a link to the NHC and we get regular updates. I just like coming on here and reading what people have to say about it. Sometimes I get a better understanding of what's going on here. The blog was going in a bad direction, so i asked the question trying to get some answers on tropical weather. And yo answered me and i thank you for that. When we do evacuate, There are 3 of us that are the last ones to leave. We are also the first people back. It does really take 2 to 3 days to get rigged down and ready to leave. Then a few hours getting anywhere from 50 to 75 men off of this rig.


If you don't mind me asking, exactly what do you have to do to get ready for a Hurricane on a rig that takes that long? I thought it took that long to get the people off the rig.
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1303. Patrap 12:42 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
One can find the Aircraft RECON Info on the Left side of the NHC Home page

Aircraft RECON

Plan of the Day

000
NOUS42 KNHC 231600
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT THU 24 SEPTEMBER 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 25/1100Z TO 26/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-114

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70 FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 24/1200,1800Z A. 25/0000,0600Z
B. AFXXX 0215A CYCLONE B. AFXXX 0315A CYCLONE
C. 24/0830Z C. 24/1945Z
D. 14.8N 80.3W D. 15.3N 83.0W
E. 24/1130Z TO 24/1800Z E. 24/2330Z TO 25/0600Z
F. SFC TO 15,000FT F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF
SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.

3. REMARKS:
A.THE NOAA G-IV MAY FLY AN 8 HR RESEARCH MISSION INTO
THE AREA TOMORROW DEPARTING AT 24/1730Z AND
OPERATING 41,000 TO 45,000 FT
B.THE G-V WILL FLY A 7 HR MISSION INTO THIS
AREA DEPARTING 24/1200Z. OPERATING FL 380-430.
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1305. EricSFL 12:42 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Dakster:
Anyone think we will have Hurricane Matthew by tomorrow morning?


Maybe at the 5:00 PM update tomorrow.
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1306. weathermancer 12:42 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting itrackstorms:
WOW!

I've been gone for a while and I come back to this. It is a real shame what has happened to this blog. It was such a great source of information.

Looks like the inmates have taken over the asylum.

Just a shame.



The info is still there. Just have to dig for it these days. The people posting the best information in here are pretty good at avoiding getting wrapped-up in the melodrama.

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1307. atmoaggie 12:42 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Actually building much deeper convection than he was earlier...back when he got named.

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1308. nrtiwlnvragn 12:42 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
This is the current operational version of HWRF used by the NHC and distributed to all of those that make plots of it's track, such as WU, but this isn't so good. (pretty sure it is the operational version, run by NCEP)

The 18 UTC HWRF has bad feedback issues around the vortex-following grid boundaries that are propagating though the domain.



What does this mean for HWRF track and intensity? Probably indeterminable, but I'll not be looking too closely at HWRF's results, I think. Intensity is prolly especially bad...

Same time for GFDL:



I wonder if they shouldn't try one-way feedback in HWRF...assuming they are doing two-way.


Not sure if that is specific to the 18Z run, or that it may be the graphics package. You can see similar on the nested runs for Lisa at all of the hours, not just 18Z. It may also be feedback as you are thinking, not sure.
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1309. stormwatcherCI 12:42 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
It's about time it's showing signs of getting it's act together.

This thing sure is running out of time to take advantage of high TCHP's & low shear to develop it into something that can withstand a potential blow with the highlands of the northern coast of Honduras.
I don't know if I agree with you on that. Remember Igor ? I know it is a different location etc but he went from a 80 mph hurricane to a 140 mph hurricane in 12 hours. Matthew has ample time to intensify a great deal
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1310. Patrap 12:43 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
TS Matthew Rainbow Image

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1312. sailingallover 12:43 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting jonelu:
Matthew needs to start a more northernly componant soon if he is going to follow the NHC track. Did he speed up or is he just getting big? The amount of moisture everywhere is impressive.

He is just getting to the end of the ridge..There will be some lag adn I am very curious to see exactly how much. But again the next few hours will tell a lot.
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1313. sarahjola 12:43 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
this year has been the year of the ull. hope this still holds true. that ull may be helping matthew at the moment, but as i was just told it may hurt him later. hope that this thing don't get too crazy.
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1314. InTheCone 12:43 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
One can find the Aircraft RECON Info on the Left side of the NHC Home page

Aircraft RECON

Plan of the Day

000
NOUS42 KNHC 231600
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT THU 24 SEPTEMBER 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 25/1100Z TO 26/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-114

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70 FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 24/1200,1800Z A. 25/0000,0600Z
B. AFXXX 0215A CYCLONE B. AFXXX 0315A CYCLONE
C. 24/0830Z C. 24/1945Z
D. 14.8N 80.3W D. 15.3N 83.0W
E. 24/1130Z TO 24/1800Z E. 24/2330Z TO 25/0600Z
F. SFC TO 15,000FT F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF
SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.

3. REMARKS:
A.THE NOAA G-IV MAY FLY AN 8 HR RESEARCH MISSION INTO
THE AREA TOMORROW DEPARTING AT 24/1730Z AND
OPERATING 41,000 TO 45,000 FT
B.THE G-V WILL FLY A 7 HR MISSION INTO THIS
AREA DEPARTING 24/1200Z. OPERATING FL 380-430.


Thanks, and nice to see you Pat!
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1315. Dakster 12:43 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Does look like Matthew is getting his act together... It wouldn't be the first time I went to sleep and woke up to a major hurricane from a TS...
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1316. washingtonian115 12:44 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting CaneWarning:


From what I can tell it will be from moisture that will pop up around Haiti.
Thanks I got confused about where Nicole will come from.
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1318. leo305 12:44 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
I don't know if I agree with you on that. Remeber Igor ? I don't it is differnet location etc but he went from a 80 mph hurricane to a 140 mph hurricane in 12 hours. Matthew has ample time to intensify a great deal


this thing has way more fuel than igor, and conditions are more favorable for development than with igor at the moment.. so yea I agree, I expect it to develop rapidly!
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1319. Patrap 12:44 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
00z NHC model tracks
TS Matthew Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)







Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)



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1320. JupiterFL 12:45 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:
ATCF says pressure's down 2 mb to 1005, and winds are up to 40 knots. Stand back!

AL, 15, 2010092400, , BEST, 0, 141N, 777W, 40, 1005, TS, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 0, 30,


Looks like he is going to flex him muscles a little bit. The overall structure looks so much different then 24hrs ago.
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1321. Grothar 12:45 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1322. 1992Andrew 12:46 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Matthew won't rapidly intensify because it has so much moisture to consolidate. Smaller systems almost always intensify faster (but also weaken just as fast) because, with less moisture, the wrapping of convection is accelerated. Matthew will be large and therefore it will take a bit more time to undergo RI
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1323. Inactivity 12:46 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting leo305:


this thing has way more fuel than igor, and conditions are more favorable for development than with igor at the moment.. so yea I agree, I expect it to develop rapidly!


I 2nd that!
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1325. leo305 12:46 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Very circular area of intense convection blowing up near the center..

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1326. atmoaggie 12:46 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:



Thank you. We do have a link to the NHC and we get regular updates. I just like coming on here and reading what people have to say about it. Sometimes I get a better understanding of what's going on here. The blog was going in a bad direction, so i asked the question trying to get some answers on tropical weather. And yo answered me and i thank you for that. When we do evacuate, There are 3 of us that are the last ones to leave. We are also the first people back. It does really take 2 to 3 days to get rigged down and ready to leave. Then a few hours getting anywhere from 50 to 75 men off of this rig.
I'd be shocked in any of the companies that operate drilling or production platforms didn't have a consulting meteorology firm engaged...the cost is so very little compared to all of the other operating costs...
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1327. Patrap 12:46 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
TS Matthew

RGB Image



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1329. Grothar 12:47 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
GFS has twins

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1330. Tazmanian 12:47 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
the nhc may put him at 50 or 60mph
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1331. leo305 12:47 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting 1992Andrew:
Matthew won't rapidly intensify because it has so much moisture to consolidate. Smaller systems almost always intensify faster (but also weaken just as fast) because, with less moisture, the wrapping of convection is accelerated. Matthew will be large and therefore it will take a bit more time to undergo RI


it has been organizing itself the entire day today at the surface to suck up an ample amount of energy from the carribean which is why it didn't look so organized convectively, yet still became a tropical storm..

what you're saying is true, but I still expect it to develop rather rapidly tonight
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1332. Patrap 12:47 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Hello there, 1314. InTheCone
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1333. all4hurricanes 12:47 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Could Matt be one of those devastating storms that gets moisture from both oceans causing major flooding?
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1334. CJ5 12:47 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
The circulation is getting smaller. Convection is very nice. He has certainly consolidated a lot today. I believe if he continues to improve at this rate he may miss N of Honduras and have Belize in his sights. The trough will have to be pretty strong to pull him N of Belize and into the Yucatan. It is too early to tell from there.

I don't study this stuff days on end all the time but I don't recall seeing winds analysis this consistent, on all layers, in a long time. Looks odd to me.
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1336. nrtiwlnvragn 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Latest SHIPS text does include higher probabilities of rapid intensification.

Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 46% is 3.7 times the sample mean(12.6%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 23% is 2.9 times the sample mean( 8.1%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 12% is 2.5 times the sample mean( 4.8%)
Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold= 7% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 3.4%)
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1337. weathermancer 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting leo305:
Very circular area of intense convection blowing up near the center..



Its looking pretty potent... and symmetrical.
Thats allot of rainfall headed to C. America.
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1339. leo305 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
I think Julia went from nothing to CAT 4 faster than igor did =P
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1340. Patrap 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1341. JamesSA 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
00z NHC model tracks
TS Matthew Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)







Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)



They are still having problems sorting this one out.
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1342. Dakster 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Looking at the latest images, it appears Matthew will be a rather large storm. Although this could be good as it takes time to spin all that up.
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1343. HurricaneHunterJoe 12:48 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
LOOKS LIKE 4 FEEDER BANDS NW SIDE AND 4 FEEDER BANDS SE SIDE. VERY HEALTHY INDEED COMPARED TO THIS AM.
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1344. Inactivity 12:49 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting 1992Andrew:
Matthew won't rapidly intensify because it has so much moisture to consolidate. Smaller systems almost always intensify faster (but also weaken just as fast) because, with less moisture, the wrapping of convection is accelerated. Matthew will be large and therefore it will take a bit more time to undergo RI


Matthew is already consolidating at a decent rate, Compare it to what is was like 12 hours ago.
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1346. JupiterFL 12:49 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Grothar:
GFS has twins



Those are a very nice set of storms.
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1347. xcool 12:49 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    


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1348. HCW 12:49 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1349. CJ5 12:49 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting CJ5:
The circulation is getting smaller. Convection is very nice. He has certainly consolidated a lot today. I believe if he continues to improve at this rate he may miss N of Honduras and have Belize in his sights. The trough will have to be pretty strong to pull him N of Belize and into the Yucatan. It is too early to tell from there.

I don't study this stuff days on end all the time but I don't recall seeing wind analysis this consistent, on all layers, in a long time. Looks odd to me.
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1350. Patrap 12:49 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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