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Tropical Depression Fifteen forms in the Caribbean
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:32 PM GMT op 23 september 2010 +4
Tropical Depression Fifteen is here, and is destined to become Tropical Storm Matthew by late this afternoon or this evening. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft left the storm near 2pm EDT this afternoon, and on their final pass through the strong northeast quadrant of the storm, found a substantial area of surface winds of 40 - 45 mph with their SFMR instrument. Top flight level winds at 500 feet were 48 mph. These winds support upgrading TD 15 to Tropical Storm Matthew. Satellite loops show that TD 15's heavy thunderstorm activity continues to increase in intensity and areal coverage, with several respectable low-level spiral bands in evidence. There is some dry air to the northwest of TD 15, but it is currently not significantly affecting development.


Figure 1. TD 15 at 11:50am EDT 9/23/10, as seen by NASA's Terra satellite.

Forecast for TD 15
An upper-level high pressure system lies to the west of TD 15, near the coast of Nicaragua. The clockwise flow of air around this high will bring a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear over TD 15 today and Friday. There is some dry continental air lying to the northwest of TD 15, and this shear may be able to drive dry air into the storm, slowing intensification and keeping TD 15 below hurricane strength through Saturday morning. By Saturday afternoon, TD 15 will move more underneath this upper-level high, causing the shear to decline. The SHIPS model forecasts that shear will fall to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, Saturday through Monday. This drop in shear should allow for intensification of TD 15 into a hurricane, if the center stays more than 50 miles offshore.

The future track and intensity of TD 15 depends critically upon the storm's interaction with land over the coming days. If TD 15 misses making landfall in Nicaragua and Honduras, and instead skirts the north coast of Honduras, the storm is likely to intensify into a hurricane by Sunday, as indicated in the official NHC forecast. However, if TD 15 spends significant time over or barely offshore of Honduras, the storm will likely stay below hurricane strength. TD 15 is being forced just north of due west by a strong ridge of high pressure. This ridge will keep the storm moving at 15 mph through Saturday. On Sunday, a trough of low pressure diving southwards over the Eastern U.S. will weaken the steering currents over the Western Caribbean and cause TD 15 to slow and turn more to the north. TD 15 will begin a period of slow and erratic movement on Sunday that may last many days, as the storm wanders in the Western Caribbean and over Belize, Honduras, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. If the center of TD 15 spends significant time over water, the storm could easily develop into powerful and dangerous Hurricane Matthew. If the center remains mostly over land, TD 15 will still generate extremely heavy rains over Central America, but remain below hurricane strength. By late next week, the trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. may lift out, allowing a ridge of high pressure to build in and force TD 15 westwards across the Yucatan Peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche. Alternatively, the trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. may amplify, drawing TD 15 northwards across Western Cuba and into Florida. A complicating factor may be the development of a new tropical depression in the Central Caribbean 6 - 8 days from now, as predicted by both the GFS and NOGAPS models with their latest 12Z (8am EDT) runs. The uncertainties in the long-range fate of TD 15 are high, and depend strongly on slight variations in its track that determine how much time the storm spends over land. One thing that is virtually certain is that TD 15 will generate very heavy rains over Nicaragua, Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula Friday through Tuesday that will cause dangerous flooding rains and life-threatening mudslides.

Tropical Depression Lisa
Tropical Depression Lisa continues to churn the waters of the far Eastern Atlantic. By Saturday night, upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over Lisa. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The remnants of Hurricane Julia are still spinning over the far Eastern Atlantic, and are generating some sporadic heavy thunderstorm to the north of the center of circulation. Julia's remains are being given a 10% chance of re-developing by NHC.

Hurricane Karl's moisture causing flooding in Minnesota, Wisconsin
A plume of very moist air associated with what was Hurricane Karl last week has surged northwards over the Central U.S. over the past two days. This moisture is now being lifted over a warm front draped over Minnesota and Wisconsin, and has generated flooding rains in excess of six inches in southern Minnesota this afternoon. Flood warnings and flood watches are posted for a wide swath of the upper Midwest today, including most of southern Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, and Michigan's Upper Peninsula. These types of rain events are called Predecessor Rain Events (PREs), because they typically precede the actual arrival of the rain shield of a tropical storm.


Figure 2. Radar estimated rainfall over Minnesota.

Next post
I'll have an update on TD 15 Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1251. sarahjola 12:29 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting 1992Andrew:
18Z run by GFS has changed. No longer pushes matthew so far north. However still has a hard time handling the energy in the Caribbean. Still, rather significant that the GFS is no longer bringing the storm in the florida straights.
where does it bring matthew? thanks in advance
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1252. xcool 12:30 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    


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1253. InTheCone 12:31 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
No real CDO, but just TONS of energy!

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1255. leo305 12:31 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
to anyone that doesn't know, and is confused

instead of looking at the models, look at how the system develops

if it becomes a stronger system than forecast, it will move more north and east than forecasted, because it would feel the upper level wind pattern and the trough much easier..

if it doesn't become much of anything, it will likely continue to feel the easterlies at the surface, and continue to move westerly, eventually the trough will grab it and push it a little to the north, but if there's not much of anything, it wont really turn..

models latch on to a TS/CAT 1 mostly, so they are taking a scenerio between those two..

if matthew becomes a monster, everyone in the SE U.S may be threathened as the chances of it turning NE should increase dramatically..
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1256. Neapolitan 12:31 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
ATCF says pressure's down 2 mb to 1005, and winds are up to 40 knots. Stand back!

AL, 15, 2010092400, , BEST, 0, 141N, 777W, 40, 1005, TS, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 0, 30,
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1258. will40 12:31 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting sarahjola:
where does it bring matthew? thanks in advance


South tip of fla
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1260. sailingallover 12:31 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
--IF TROPICAL LO FORMS IN OR MOVES INTO WATERS OF NW CARIBBEAN...
1. It should NOT threaten areas outside of Caribbean thru Mon27.
2. If LO/FRONT in E US Tue28-Wed29 is strong-enough, it could pull LO N-ward out of Caribbean.
3. If LO/FRONT is not sufficiently-strong, LO may linger in NW Caribbean longer.
4. If LO/FRONT in E US is weak...AND sub-Tropical RIDGE rebuilds...then NW Caribbean LO could move W or NW over Yucatan & into C or W
GOMEX.

--RISK, TIMING & LOCATION:
--Providencia-SanAndreas area & rest of SW Caribbean only risks seeing increasing S-W wind & squalls tomorrow onward, but NOT
TropicalStorm strength.
--Jamaica E-ward & E half of Cuba & Bahamas E of 75W & Bermuda ALL seem to be at very LOW risk next 14 days.
--Honduras & Belize & Guatemala & Mexico'sYucatan S of 20N at HIGH risk Sat25 onward, except tomorrow night onward E Honduras.
--Caymans & W half of Cuba & YucatanChnl & Mexico'sYucatan N of 20N may be at some risk Tue28 onward, regardless of what occurs thru
Sun26.
--Areas outside Caribbean, from Bahamas W of 75W thru FL & entire GOMEX & US Coast from Hatteras thru Texas & Atlantic waters S&W of
Bermuda may all be at some risk about Wed29 onward, regardless of what occurs thru Sun26.

I copied this from CaribWX and hope this might be of some help.

This is excellent. Although I would go further out into probable land and say western GOM at less risk than Eastern GOM AS ridge is not expected to relax north of Yucatan hence the 20deg high risk line. so Mathew will stall until front/trough comes and pushes him and whatever comes or forms east of him NE.
If the ridge relaxes over the weekend or is forecast to relax shut it down. If Mathew stay over water until Sat and becomes a CAT II shut it down.
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1262. jonelu 12:33 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Look on the Caribbean WV loop and see the big burst on convection that formed over Pilon Cuba. Its dead in the middle of the dryer air over eastern Cuba.
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1263. 1992Andrew 12:33 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting leo305:


HWRF may be on to something..

the thing is already it's developing SIGNIFICANT hot towers.. that already indicates the circulation is deepening, and will likely deepen rapidly tonight.. similar to KARL but karl hit land before it could really erupt near the yucatan.. the same could be said about alex..

the thing is matthew has space this time.. and developed a tight closed low throughout the day.. this will allow him to explode to night.. and it's already beginning on satellite..

Like I said it should be a much stronger system that forecasted, as the conditions are favorable for some rapid development at the moment.. a weak anticyclone seems to have also formed over Matthew on satellite..

so.. yea.. I again I suspect it could become a hurricane rather quickly before the sun comes up..


Indeed the storm is intensifying.

As with EWRF, from what i remember, they have been somewhat consistent with their runs. The situation here is complicated due to the entity responsible for that eventual north to north east movement. A cut off low is not teh same as a strong front sweeping through, as was the case with Wilma, making Matthew 's trajectory incomparable.
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1266. leo305 12:33 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:
ATCF says pressure's down 2 mb to 1005, and winds are up to 40 knots. Stand back!

AL, 15, 2010092400, , BEST, 0, 141N, 777W, 40, 1005, TS, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 0, 30,


yep as I suspected, it's going to rapidly intensify tonight.. the conditions are absolutely PERFECT

weak anticylone formed near the center, properly ventilated, over near 90 degree waters, a lot of moisture/energy to work with, a tight core circulation, nothing should stop it from intensifying quickly tonight, NOTHING
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1268. AnthonyJKenn 12:33 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:
I am on a drilling rig about 40 miles southeast of Port Fourchon La. From what was just told to us in a safety meeting earlier, they are watching this one very close. They are trying to make a decision on when or if to start rigging down for an evacuation. It takes a minimum of 36-48 hours to rig this thing down to go in for a storm. I would love some info on when Mathew could potentially reach the Gulf, and how strong he might be once he reaches it.


Best thing is to simply watch and see, and heed the advisories issued by the NWS, NHC, and your locals.

I'd think that Port Fourchon/Grand Isle would be safe from a direct hit, since everything points to either MX/CentAM or FL...but anything going from, say, the mouth of the Mississippi to Applachicola/Pensacola could bring some nasty gales and high seas over there. I'm still betting on that cold front passing through to protect TX/LA/MS from any real impacts, other than some fresh NE breezes and maybe some squally weather in the deeper waters to our E-SE.

Still, one cannot take any chances, and preliminary plans to evacuate the rigs just in case things do change -- even though it's still quite unlikely -- is a darn good move.


Anthony
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1271. leo305 12:34 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting 1992Andrew:


Indeed the storm is intensifying.

As with EWRF, from what i remember, they have been somewhat consistent with their runs. The situation here is complicated due to the entity responsible for that eventual north to north east movement. A cut off low is not teh same as a strong front sweeping through, as was the case with Wilma, making Matthew 's trajectory incomparable.


That's true, but a surface front is expected to develop with the cut off low, and dig down into North florida.. which is what is eventually expected to turn a stronger system towards the North east

The front wont be as strong as the front that hit wilma, since that was a full fledged arctic front
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1272. Inactivity 12:34 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:
ATCF says pressure's down 2 mb to 1005, and winds are up to 40 knots. Stand back!

AL, 15, 2010092400, , BEST, 0, 141N, 777W, 40, 1005, TS, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 0, 30,


Make sense,thanks for the info!

Could be 50mph at 11pm if this keeps up.
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1273. Seastep 12:35 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Nea - keep meaning to comment on it, but good stuff with your activity updates. Thanks.
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1274. leo305 12:35 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
Great point.

It's the next 48 hrs of this system that will ultimately determine it's fate IMO. It can mean life as a healthy cat2 or cat3 or even death after it's encounter with the high, rugged terrain of Central America...


yep
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1276. weathermancer 12:36 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting 1992Andrew:


Depends on which model you follow. The latest runs (18z) are, through the FSU website, only available by GFS and EWRF.

The Oriente region of Cuba, the western most province, may get hit IF the EWRF model is correct. It's still too far out to know. The NHC may lose accuracy points for the year due to this system. Very complicated atmospheric situation here.


Plenty of warm water... but that ULL either destroy Matthew... or re-enforce the outflow ?


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1277. InTheCone 12:37 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Anyone know when the next HH flight will be?
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1280. Stormridr911 12:37 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Why is it that Jim Cantore and the Weather Channel insist on showing the BAM models that are notoriously unreliable vs. showing the models that have been fairly correct??
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1281. Patrap 12:38 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1282. centex 12:38 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1283. JamesSA 12:38 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting leo305:


yep as I suspected, it's going to rapidly intensify tonight.. the conditions are absolutely PERFECT

weak anticylone formed near the center, properly ventilated, over near 90 degree waters, a lot of moisture/energy to work with, a tight core circulation, nothing should stop it from intensifying quickly tonight, NOTHING
I think Nicaragua, Honduras, Belize, and the Yucatan are in for a rough time regardless of the exact track.
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1285. Patrap 12:39 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1286. Dakster 12:39 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Anyone think we will have Hurricane Matthew by tomorrow morning?
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1287. Neapolitan 12:39 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Seastep:
Nea - keep meaning to comment on it, but good stuff with your activity updates. Thanks.


Oh, you're welcome. I'm glad someone is reading them... ;-)
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1288. will40 12:39 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting InTheCone:
Anyone know when the next HH flight will be?


ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70 FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 24/1200,1800Z A. 25/0000,0600Z
B. AFXXX 0215A CYCLONE B. AFXXX 0315A CYCLONE
C. 24/0830Z C. 24/1945Z
D. 14.8N 80.3W D. 15.3N 83.0W
E. 24/1130Z TO 24/1800Z E. 24/2330Z TO 25/0600Z
F. SFC TO 15,000FT F. SFC TO 15,000 FT
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1289. HimacaneBrees 12:39 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:

Your rigging company should have a special link in with either the National Hurricane Center, Accuweather or another paid forecasting service.

The latest computer models are in decent agreement, bring a CAT 1 hurricane to near Honduras, Nicaragua and the Yucatan peninsula on SA and SU.

Then the computer models are in disagreement with the track. Some models takes this into the Bay of Campeche, several others take it into FL and up the Eastern Seaboard.

I would recommend that you get with your employer and watch for updates from OFFICIAL weather services, such as the National Hurricane Center, the National Weather Service or Accuweather.com.



Thank you. We do have a link to the NHC and we get regular updates. I just like coming on here and reading what people have to say about it. Sometimes I get a better understanding of what's going on here. The blog was going in a bad direction, so i asked the question trying to get some answers on tropical weather. And yo answered me and i thank you for that. When we do evacuate, There are 3 of us that are the last ones to leave. We are also the first people back. It does really take 2 to 3 days to get rigged down and ready to leave. Then a few hours getting anywhere from 50 to 75 men off of this rig.
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1293. leo305 12:40 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Dakster:
Anyone think we will have Hurricane Matthew by tomorrow morning?


I do, and I'm almost certain that it will become a hurricane tonight
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1294. Patrap 12:40 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
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1295. 1992Andrew 12:40 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting leo305:


That's true, but a surface front is expected to develop with the cut off low, and dig down into North florida.. which is what is eventually expected to turn a stronger system towards the North east

The front wont be as strong as the front that hit wilma, since that was a full fledged arctic front



Yeah I did notice forecast temps for next week is ten degrees less in tallahassee, florida. Just don't know the extent to which a storm changes direction with respect to the orientation of a trough.
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1296. Seastep 12:40 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting weathermancer:


Plenty of warm water... but that ULL either destroy Matthew... or re-enforce the outflow ?




I would say the latter... far enough away and when he gets under the upper level H, will have near zero affect.
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1297. JamesSA 12:40 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
Quoting Dakster:
Anyone think we will have Hurricane Matthew by tomorrow morning?
Quite possible IMO.
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1298. xcool 12:41 AM GMT op 24 september 2010    
btwntx08 :)
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