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Hermine drenching Texas; Gaston's remains less organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:21 PM GMT op 07 september 2010 +5
Tropical Storm Hermine hit the Mexican coast 40 miles south of the Texas border at 9:30 pm EDT last night, with 60 mph sustained winds. Top winds observed in Texas from the storm were 50 mph with gusts to 59 mph at Port Isabel near the Mexican border, and winds at Brownsville hit 45 mph, gusting to 69 mph. Harlingen had the highest gust observed from Hermine, 72 mph, and local storm reports indicate that half of the city lost power and a roof caved in on an apartment complex, with no injuries. Heavy rains have fallen along a 30-mile wide stretch of the Mexican and Texas coast, with 1.41" reported thus far in Harlingen, 3.71" at Brownsville, and 2.00" at Corpus Christi. Radar estimated rainfall amounts (Figure 3) exceed four inches along most of the Lower Texas coast, with maximum amounts near eleven inches twenty miles north of Brownsville.


Figure 1. Radar image of Hermine at landfall.


Figure 2. MODIS satellite image of Hermine at 12:45pm EDT Monday September 6, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Hermine became a tropical depression at 11pm Sunday night, and intensified into a 65 mph tropical storm in just 21 hours, an extremely fast intensification rate. It turns out that the southwestern Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche, where Hermine formed, is prone to these sort of rapidly intensifying tropical storms. This region produced two similar rapidly intensifying storms in 2007, Humberto and Lorenzo. Since 6-hourly position records of Atlantic hurricanes began in 1970, Hurricane Humberto holds the record for fastest intensification from first advisory issued to hurricane strength--18 hours. (Actually, Humberto did the feat in 14 1/4 hours, but this was rounded off to 18 hours in the final data base, which stores points every six hours). The curvature and topography of the land surrounding the Bay of Campeche help induce a counter-clockwise spin to the air over the region, which helps get tropical storms spinning up unusually quickly. Helping the spin-up process yesterday for Hermine were the very warm 30°C waters, low 5 - 10 knots of wind shear, and moist atmosphere.


Figure 3. Morning radar-estimated rainfall for Hermine.

Forecast for Hermine
Heavy rain and isolated tornadoes will continue across southern and central Texas today and tomorrow. Hermine is expected to accelerate northward today, limiting the potential for damaging floods along its future path. The storm's rains will help alleviate moderate to severe drought conditions affecting Central Texas.

Gaston's remains less organized
Dry air has significantly disrupted the remains of Tropical Storm Gaston, which are now over the northern Lesser Antilles Islands and Puerto Rico. Morning visible satellite imagery shows that Gaston's remains no longer have a well-defined surface circulation, though there is still some spin. Latest radar out of Martinique and Puerto Rico show a few heavy rain showers moving through the islands, but no organization to the showers. A large amount of dry air surrounds Gaston's remains on all sides, as seen on water vapor satellite loops. None of the computer models show Gaston redeveloping, and NHC has downgraded the odds of development to 10%. I think the odds should be higher than this, perhaps 30%. Gaston's remains will be disrupted some on Wednesday, when they will encounter the high terrain of Hispaniola.

Elsewhere in the tropics
There are two tropical waves off the coast of Africa that NHC is giving a 10% chances of developing into tropical depressions by Thursday. The models are fairly unanimous in predicting development of one or more tropical waves off the coast of Africa 3 - 7 days from now. The next storm will be called Igor.

Eastern Pacific Tropical Depression 11E kills 44 in Guatemala
In the Eastern Pacific, heavy rains from Tropical Depression 11E killed at least 44 people in Guatemala over the weekend. At least 56 are injured, and 16 missing. The heavy rains triggered fifteen landslides that hit portions of the Inter-American Highway, burying a number of vehicles and a bus. Guatemala is still recovering from the impacts of Tropical Storm Agatha, which killed 287 people in the country and did over $1 billion in damage.


Figure 4. Satellite image from Friday, September 3, 2010, showing Tropical Depression 11E over Guatemala. Image credit: NASA.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question to broadcast@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line.

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Next post
I'll have an update Wednesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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2351. xcool 4:06 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
JLPR2 he's dead call 911 pick him up on way beep
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2353. MZT 4:06 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Gaston's story might be like 92L's earlier this year. Even in death, he may leave enough vorticity that some other feature latches on to create a system.
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2354. angiest 4:07 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Yeah, I get that. But the NHC themselves have remarked on the sustained wind/gust ratio being higher than normal with this system, which is something we usually don't see.

I mean, she was putting down 70 kt gusts six hours after moving inland, and she was only at 55 kt when she came ashore. That's pretty unusual.

And even now, as a depression, she's producing wind gusts in excess of 50 mph. Incredible.


I really think they lowballed the landfall intensity.
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2355. JLPR2 4:07 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting xcool:
JLPR2 he's dead call 911 pick him up on way beep


Too late! We lost him! XD
LOL
Nah, but as long as there is something, the water is plenty hot for it to try and come back.
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2356. xcool 4:08 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
JLPR2 lol
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2357. Papagolash 4:09 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Which ones...I have a 100 or so?


The ones from the 1st 4 photos you posted. Looks like they're models that are predicting where the storm will go and how strong they'll be.
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2358. KoritheMan 4:09 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting angiest:


I really think they lowballed the landfall intensity.


I agree.
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2359. jpritch 4:09 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting EricSFL:
People in Texas were complaining a couple weeks back about how badly they needed the rain, and some of them were wishing for a tropical system to end the drought. Well, now that they have it, they're still complaining - "too much rain". I guess its all human nature; we're never satisfied. lol


I'm not sure why you think it's funny. We have needed rainfall badly, but no one needs flooding.
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2360. redwagon 4:10 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
The severe train stuff is moving W of IH-35 into the hills. I've never seen water so high running in the roads. The Lake Travis boat dock situation is going to be horrific by Thursday.

Last time something like this happened was back in '77 with Amelia. Quite a few people lost their lives.

Positive side, aquifers will be full.
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2361. Grecojdw 4:10 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Too late! We lost him! XD
LOL
Nah, but as long as there is something, the water is plenty hot for it to try and come back.


I new once he encountered the storm destroyer Hispaniola he would go poof.
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2362. txsweetpea 4:10 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Too late! We lost him! XD
LOL
Nah, but as long as there is something, the water is plenty hot for it to try and come back.

Hey JLPR2..I amback ...do you have the coordinates and pressure on EX gaston,,,and 91L..just wondering, I am playing with this tracking program
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2363. angiest 4:10 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting KoritheMan:


While it didn't affect the Caribbean, Ike formed at 17N and went on to impact the United States.


Eh? Didn't he cross Cuba twice, once from the north and the other from the Caribbean? That could be scored as a Caribbean impact.
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2364. centex 4:10 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting EricSFL:
People in Texas were complaining a couple weeks back about how badly they needed the rain, and some of them were wishing for a tropical system to end the drought. Well, now that they have it, they're still complaining - "too much rain". I guess its all human nature; we're never satisfied. lol
No, common since. You never know when/where rain bombs will form. Rain from tropical systems gives us our late summer rain, sometimes too much, only a few getting too much. Sounds like you’re the Winnie.
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2365. RadarRich 4:10 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Wow, just checking in. Read two pages of the blog. Civil, common sense posts about the tropics compared to this afternoon when I checked in. Kinda nice to see. Must be bedtime for some I guess. Ex Gaston looked like he was trying to make a comeback earlier today, but has seemed to have quieted down in regards to convection in the last few hours.
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2366. PSLFLCaneVet 4:11 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting EricSFL:
People in Texas were complaining a couple weeks back about how badly they needed the rain, and some of them were wishing for a tropical system to end the drought. Well, now that they have it, they're still complaining - "too much rain". I guess its all human nature; we're never satisfied. lol
Agreed. But fear the wrath now. FL posters were bashed this afternoon. I expect this to get a mite dicey. No disrespect to TX, as I posted my sentiments previously on the matters they have at hand. No offense to any here.
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2367. Bordonaro 4:11 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Well the NWS DFW, TX & Austin-San Antonio, TX weather sites are so slow tonight. All the additional traffic on those 2 sites.

Hermine will be remembered for her heavy rainfall for years to come.
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2368. xcool 4:11 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
i'm ready for some football .backtropical weather,
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2370. HIEXPRESS 4:13 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
TPW archive, 2007 Dean Climbs out of the ITCZ

ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/mimic_tpw/animations/global/2007/20070816T000000anim72.gif

Current
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2371. xcool 4:13 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    


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2372. angiest 4:13 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
i personally believe hermine was between 70-75 mph(strong ts/minimal hurricane)


I think radar supported hurricane strength, but that is my non-expert opinion.
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2373. xcool 4:14 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
btwntx08 i was say about 73k
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2374. txsweetpea 4:14 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
i personally believe hermine was between 70-75 mph(strong ts/minimal hurricane)

I was wondering that myself. Perhaps it progressed so quickly that the NHC jsut went with what they had...I dont know,
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2375. Bordonaro 4:14 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:
Agreed. But fear the wrath now. FL posters were bashed this afternoon. I expect this to get a mite dicey. No disrespect to TX, as I posted my sentiments previously on the matters they have at hand. No offense to any here.

FYI, TX soils in S Central TX and N TX are either clay based or have a clay/sand base sitting on top of hundreds of feet of impermeable limestone.

They are saturated with 3-4" of rain max, then everything runs off. The 8-12" of rain hat has fallen is creating serious problems. We need the rain, but noone was expecting these rainfall totals!!

I am sure you would be upset or would complain if your neighborhood flooded too!

FYI, the Killeen-Austin-San Antonio, TX corridor is home to over 3,000,000 people...
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2376. xcool 4:15 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    






slow moved
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2377. txsweetpea 4:16 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Too late! We lost him! XD
LOL
Nah, but as long as there is something, the water is plenty hot for it to try and come back.

Hey JLPR2..I am back ...do you have the coordinates and pressure on EX gaston,,,and 91L..just wondering, I am playing with this tracking program
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2378. PSLFLCaneVet 4:16 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting RadarRich:
Wow, just checking in. Read two pages of the blog. Civil, common sense posts about the tropics compared to this afternoon when I checked in. Kinda nice to see. Must be bedtime for some I guess. Ex Gaston looked like he was trying to make a comeback earlier today, but has seemed to have quieted down in regards to convection in the last few hours.
Ah, if it were like this all the time. Admin. had to take up the fight, it was so bad. Trolls live to provoke.
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2379. xcool 4:17 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
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2380. will40 4:18 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting xcool:


not moved much

hmm



stalls between 114 and 120 hrs
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2381. HadesGodWyvern 4:18 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #44
TROPICAL STORM MALOU (T1009)
12:00 PM JST September 8 2010
================================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon Overland Japan

at 3:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Malou (1004 hPa) located at 35.5N 136.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving east southeast at 14 knots

Dvorak Intensity:

Gale Force Winds
=================
140 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
========================
24 HRS: 35.4N 142.8E - Tropical Depression
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2382. MZT 4:18 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Hermine is still pulling up lines of storms all the way to the Louisiana border. There seems to be a "lighter arc" of moisture in front of the big red band we're all watching.

Looks like Gatesville and Killeen got smacked pretty hard with the thick stuff.
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2383. TXEER 4:18 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:
Well the NWS DFW, TX & Austin-San Antonio, TX weather sites are so slow tonight. All the additional traffic on those 2 sites.

Hermine will be remembered for her heavy rainfall for years to come.


I can assure you that its been raining all day here in the North Houston burbs...Kingwood.

We've had over 3 inches so far and we're 400 hundred miles from Brownsville.
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2384. xcool 4:18 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
rob Did you lose power last night if yea for how long.?
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2385. xcool 4:19 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    


moved south now.
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2386. angiest 4:20 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting txsweetpea:

I was wondering that myself. Perhaps it progressed so quickly that the NHC jsut went with what they had...I dont know,


Hurricane watches were issued, so they hedged their bets she would make it that far. Had warnings been issued I think they may have upgraded her. But there isn't *that* must difference from a strong tropical storm to minimal hurricane in terms of wind, wave, and urge effects I think they may have felt justified not declaring her a hurricane just before landfall.
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2387. leo305 4:20 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting MZT:
Hermine is still pulling up lines of storms all the way to the Louisiana line. There seems to be a "lighter arc" of moisture in front of the big red band we're all watching.

Looks like Gatesville and Killeen got smacked pretty hard with the thick stuff.


Cantoree believes that the weak moist front pushing into the mid west may enhance Hermine's moisture even more, in fact it may feed the circulation a bit
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2388. xcool 4:21 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    




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2389. centex 4:21 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Why does anyone complain if we want rain in CT but have issue if we get a foot and we ask for less? Can you say MORAN?
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2390. Bordonaro 4:21 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting TXEER:


I can assure you that its been raining all day here in the North Houston burbs...Kingwood.

We've had over 3 inches so far and we're 400 hundred miles from Brownsville.

Hermine moistened the environment up quickly. She was sending feeder bands through Houston, TX for hours!! And DFW, TX is gonna get it next. However we really need all the rain we can get. Last area wide rainfall was in later June-early July from Alex!!
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2392. PSLFLCaneVet 4:22 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Good night,all. Best wishes going out to those affected by Hermine.
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2393. xcool 4:22 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
btwntx08 that good.
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2394. xcool 4:23 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
144hrs stalled
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2396. xcool 4:23 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    


150hrs




not moved much.
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2397. MZT 4:23 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
If ya wanna look somewhere else, New York state is getting pounded pretty good by storms right now, too.
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2398. will40 4:24 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting xcool:


150hrs


see that low to his NE?
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2399. VAbeachhurricanes 4:25 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
Quoting centex:
Why does anyone complain if we want rain in CT but have issue if we get a foot and we ask for less? Can you say MORAN?


no, but i can spell it ;)
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2400. metwombly 4:25 AM GMT op 08 september 2010    
2390. Bordonaro 4:21 AM GMT on September 08, 2010
Quoting TXEER:


I can assure you that its been raining all day here in the North Houston burbs...Kingwood.

We've had over 3 inches so far and we're 400 hundred miles from Brownsville.

Hermine moistened the environment up quickly. She was sending feeder bands through Houston, TX for hours!! And DFW, TX is gonna get it next. However we really need all the rain we can get. Last area wide rainfall was in later June-early July from Alex!!


Watching the heavier rains make their way here.
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