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Little change to Erika; Jimena makes landfall as a Category 2 hurricane
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:30 PM GMT op 02 september 2009 +2
Tropical Storm Erika remains weak and disorganized, and the future track and intensity of the storm remain highly uncertain. The center has jumped several times over the past 12 hours, and now lies exposed to view, west of the main area of heavy thunderstorms. Radar animations out of Martinique show little organization of the echoes, and satellite imagery shows no low-level spiral bands or upper-level outflow. Wind shear analyses from the University of Wisconsin diagnose a moderate 10 - 15 knots of shear over Erika, a decrease from yesterday. SSTs are warm, 29°C. The Hurricane Hunters are in the storm now, and have found a slight increase in the surface winds, up to 45 mph. They noted that the surface center was displaced 12 miles north of the center they found at 1500 feet, which is the sign of a disorganized storm undergoing wind shear.

The forecast for Erika
Erika is embedded in a weak steering current pattern, and the storm's current state of disorganization is allowing the center to make random jumps as it reforms near the heaviest thunderstorm activity. This makes for a low-confidence forecast. The future track of the storm will depend upon how strong the storm gets over the next few days. A stronger Erika will extend higher into the atmosphere and be steered more to the northwest by upper-level winds. A weaker Erika will be steered more by the low-level winds, which will keep the storm on a more westerly track. The intensity forecast models did a poor job with Tropical Storm Danny last week, and appear to be repeating that poor performance with Erika. All of the major intensity forecast models predict substantial strengthening of Erika. This seems unlikely to occur, given the storm's current disorganization, and the predicted increase in wind shear along the path of Erika to 20 - 25 knots 3 - 5 days from now. The more southerly than expected track of the storm also brings the possibility that Erika will encounter the high mountains of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. The GFS, GFDL, and Canadian models predict Erika will pass near Puerto Rico on Friday, then move over Hispaniola on Saturday. Erika in its current weak state would probably not survive an encounter with these islands. A wide range of scenarios is still possible for Erika, from outright dissipation (as forecast by the GFS, Canadian, and ECMWF models) to intensification to a Category 3 hurricane (as forecast by the HWRF model). Erika is a long-term threat to the Bahamas and U.S. East Coast if it is still around five days from now. Potential landfall locations range from Florida on Tuesday to North Carolina on Wednesday. The NOGAPS model has Erika potentially missing the U.S. entirely, scooting northwards between North Carolina and Bermuda. My current expectation is that Erika will dissipate on Saturday when it encounters Hispaniola.


Figure 1. Afternoon image of Tropical Storm Erika. The swirl of clouds just west of Guadeloupe island is the center. This center was what I had labeled a "false center" in this morning's post, and has taken over as the main center this afternoon.

Hurricane Jimena hits Baja
Hurricane Jimena made lanndfall on Mexico's Baja Peninsula late this morning near Cabo San Lazaro as a Category 2 hurricane with 100 mph winds. Jimena is the 2nd strongest hurricane to hit Baja's west coast since record keeping began in 1949. The only stronger storm was Hurricane Norbert, which made landfall in 2008 on the central Baja coast with sustained winds of 105 mph. Jimena has now weakened to a Category 1 storm, and will continue to weaken as it hits colder waters and interacts with land. No deaths or major damage have been reported from the storm.


Figure 2. Hurricane Jimena on Tuesday, Sep. 1, 2009, as seen by NASA's MODIS instrument. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

California fire webcams
As I discussed in yesterday morning's post, you can use our wundermap for Los Angeles with the fire layer turned on to see where the fire and smoke are located, and track the temperatures and winds during today's air pollution event. We also have two webcams with views of the fire: Altadena and Tujunga.

I'll have an update Thursday morning.

Jeff Masters
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301. Patrap 8:38 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting hurricanehanna:
Pat - what is that "V" ???


A Kink in da Front.

"Vary" Interesting,..



I gotta go with stormno on this one,cept Im feeling more Mid-Gulfish on the Genesis.
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302. Baybuddy 8:39 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Let's just wait and see...like Erika, my wife is pretty erratic between cycles.
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303. DellOperator 8:39 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
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304. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 8:39 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
000
AGXX40 KNHC 021906
MIMATS

MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
306 PM EDT WED SEP 02 2009

TROPICAL STORM ERIKA REMAINS DISORGANIZED WITH LARGE CLUSTERS OF
CONVECTION WITHIN 300 NM OVER THE E SEMICIRCLE. LATEST ADVISORY
HAS LOWERED THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS TO 35 KT GUST TO 45 KT.
STRONGEST WINDS PRESENTLY IN NE SEMICIRCLE AND SE QUADRANT OF
THE STORM. THE S PORTION OF ERIKA WILL BRUSH THE NE CORNER OF
CARIBBEAN TONIGHT TROUGH FRI. ELSEWHERE IN CARIBBEAN...ERIKA HAS
FLATTENED PRES GRADIENT AND EFFECTIVELY DIMINISHED ANY STRONG
WINDS ACROSS MOST OF BASIN. ONLY SMALL AREA ALONG COAST OF
COLOMBIA ACCOUNTS FOR A MODERATE BREEZE WHILE REMAINING CARIBBEA
WINDS ARE GENERALLY LIGHT.

WARNINGS
ATLC...
.TROPICAL STORM WARNING N OF 15N...AMZ087.

CARIBBEAN...
.TROPICAL STORM WARNING N OF 16N E OF 66W...AMZ086.

GULF OF MEXICO...
.NONE

$$
FORECASTER WALLY BARNES
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305. MiamiHurricanes09 8:39 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting scottsvb:



Errrrrrnttt Wrong... LLC is clearly away from the convection....Your guesscasting @ a midelevel center probably!
you are the incorrect one my friend, what CCHS posted is backed up by facts.
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307. Patrap 8:40 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
To be sure,,theres mucho mo to the Atlantic Basin in September than Just Erika,or the TD its become.
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308. Lauren08 8:40 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Local WPB news just said WORST case scenario we will see a little rain from Erika... is this premature or right on?
309. KimberlyB 8:40 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


A Kink idn da Front.

"Vary" Interesting,..



I gotta go with stormno on this one,cept Im feeling more Mid-Gulfish on the Genesis.


I've been watching there myself. Is it as painful for you to agree with him as it is me?
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310. Floodman 8:40 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting Patrap:




.."I set my Mind In Motion and I sense the GOM Ocean"..

There,..near the V,beware the Development,..





With the storm, we will set family aginast family and only the Padishah Emperor and House Harkonnen will profit....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
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311. Seflhurricane 8:41 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting Baybuddy:
Let's just wait and see...like Erika, my wife is pretty erratic between cycles.
gee what a mental picture LOL
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314. WatchingThisOne 8:41 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Yeah, Nassau to Cayman. Again, the models are blindfolded in a cornfield and hopelessly lost.



Interesting storm. I note the BAMs are in fairly close agreement on track. Anyone know what shear is forecast to be along that track (along the islands or paralleling them south in the Caribbean waters)
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315. cchsweatherman 8:42 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting scottsvb:



Errrrrrnttt Wrong... LLC is clearly away from the convection....Your guesscasting @ a midelevel center probably!


Have you been keeping track of the Hurricane Hunter data in the past couple hours?
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316. Chicklit 8:42 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Erika is reminding me a little bit of Bertha at this point. Link
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317. scottsvb 8:42 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
you are the incorrect one my friend, what CCHS posted is backed up by facts.



Weatherstudent is this you??????
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318. tropicfreak 8:43 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting stormno:
reedzone i disagree but we all have opinions and im not downcasting im giving you the facts as i see them...i been saying this since erica was born...conditions are very hostile reed.she is lucky she survived this long.....Stormno


But conditions will be favorable for her in 2-3 days.
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319. hurricanehanna 8:43 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
...and today's blog is sponsored by the letter "V" - for voodoo
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320. TheDawnAwakening 8:43 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
From what I can tell and see on the visible satellite loops, is that Erika is trying once again to wrap up her mid level and low level circulations. After dinner I will do another blog post about Erika currently. However I will say this, there is a rather ominous area of shear to her west which should still interfere with her as she heads westward in the Caribbean Sea. I believe her problem is that the exposed low level circulation is still well defined and is really showing no signs of letting go and wants to be the main center of circulation. Convection is showing signs of wanting to wrap around the NE quadrant of the weak storm and appears there is convection flaring right in the southeast quadrant of the low level exposed center. A hint of things to come tonight possibly?
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321. SQUAWK 8:43 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
who cares?
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322. MiamiHurricanes09 8:43 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting scottsvb:



Weatherstudent is this you??????
lmao, no its not, weatherstudent has his own handle, he posted earlier today.
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323. JupiterFL 8:44 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Good Evening!

I am brand new to Weather Underground and I would enjoy very much to get acquainted with you guys. I am studying tropical meteorology at the University of Miami, and i am striving for my masters degree. I will try very hard to post the best information I can give.

-MiamiHurricanes09


Welcome. We can always use another Weather Student on here.
Your avatar reminded me, where is Canesrule today?
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324. IKE 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
you are the incorrect one my friend, what CCHS posted is backed up by facts.


Sorry, you're wrong.
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326. Patrap 8:44 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting KimberlyB:


I've been watching there myself. Is it as painful for you to agree with him as it is me?



No...Im well aware who He is.

But we all entitled to our opinions,..if not,well..we wouldnt be America.
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327. reedzone 8:44 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
All these self righteous people need to stop making bold predictions. WE DON'T KNOW!! Give it a few days. Erika is a complicated storm and still will remain a TS at 5 p.m. with 40-45 mph. winds. So many downcasters in here tonight, figured I'd see this.
For the people lurking..
Continue to monitor Tropical Storm Erika. Models have no clue on strength and track as of today, really depends if it can grab that next Anticyclone. The NHC has low confidence but they're right, Erika may dissipate, a 50/50 chance. Give it time and don't listen to the people who are declaring it gone. :)
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328. Ossqss 8:44 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Updated DAT is catching this file each click on this site using IE.

mootools-wu-1.11[1].js

It is the JS/Exploit-Packed.c.gen

I hope some have forwarded this info to Admin.

I will also as I depart.
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329. atmoaggie 8:44 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting WatchingThisOne:


Interesting storm. I note the BAMs are in fairly close agreement on track. Anyone know what shear is forecast to be along that track (along the islands or paralleling them south in the Caribbean waters)

Yeah, I am with SSIGAGuy on that. All 3 BAM flavors take the dirty (most convective) side right over the middle of Hispaniola. Shear will not matter on that track.
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330. Orcasystems 8:45 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Trying to find the COC is making the HH pilot look like he is on drugs or drunk.. he is all over the sky

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331. WPBHurricane05 8:45 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Still a TS at 5pm.
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332. Grothar 8:45 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting mikatnight:
What we've got here is a failure to... extrapolate.


You're to young to remember that line!!
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333. CUBWF 8:45 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Good afternoon everybody. Erika is a mess. I'm seen trying to rebuild it's center just north of the forcast point. The burst of convection is been pulled to what appear the llc at 60.2 and 16.9. The false center, is becoming elongated and will disappear in a couple of hours. Also the out flow to the north is more visible and Erika, could take a track over P.Rico to the north of D.R. if she can survive the sheer in front of her. Just my opinion. I could be wrong as the models, the NHC or anybody, not a met, just a weather fan. Thank you
334. WPBHurricane05 8:45 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Remnant low in 5 days.
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335. IKE 8:45 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
5:00 PM AST Wed Sep 2
Location: 16.4°N 61.7°W
Max sustained: 40 mph
Moving: W at 10 mph
Min pressure: 1007 mb
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337. CybrTeddy 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Erika still a TS at 5..
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338. hurricanehanna 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
5:00 PM AST Wed Sep 2
Location: 16.4°N 61.7°W
Max sustained: 40 mph
Moving: W at 10 mph
Min pressure: 1007 mb

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339. atmoaggie 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting hurricanehanna:
...and today's blog is sponsored by the letter "V" - for voodoo

Ah ah ah *halting noises made by the Count*
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340. Tropicaddict 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
NHC 5pm update is out
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341. IKE 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
...ERIKA NOW IN THE NORTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA...NEW WATCHES AND WARNINGS ISSUED...

Naked swirl is the center.
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342. Floodman 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting KimberlyB:

Check the name. That would be ma'am. Or chick or broad or hun or babe or just plain Kim, but not sir. ; )


A "Dune" reference! Nice.

Now, I'm reading everyone's varying opinion's on the models, but I was curious as to which model has been used the longest?





The only person in here to comment on that...aside from me, and we all know what a tosspot I am...
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343. Chicklit 8:46 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
...The reason for Erika reminding me of Bertha is simply her meandering around with a big fat belly full of precipitation! Big ole cow, she was. We'll see about Erika. Hopefully, she'll drop her bounty on the islands, which need rain, and then dissipate somewhere in the mountains of Hispaniola without causing too much trouble!
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344. Patrap 8:47 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


With the storm, we will set family aginast family and only the Padishah Emperor and House Harkonnen will profit....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!


..."Up on yer feet,Moods are for women and Cattle...
Note the Pressures Mid-Gulf Man"..!
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346. BoroDad17 8:47 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
St. Simon, greetings from another SE Georgian, thanks for the informative post, one of the few this afternoon. Erika's uncertainty may be making the pros confused, but the casters here are about to riot, since everyone KNOWS they are right not the other 4 or 5 forecasts being thrown around.
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347. Grothar 8:47 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
WTNT41 KNHC 022045
TCDAT1
TROPICAL STORM ERIKA DISCUSSION NUMBER 5
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL062009
500 PM AST WED SEP 02 2009

SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT THE CIRCULATION OF ERIKA IS ELONGATED
FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST...IN AGREEMENT WITH SURFACE OBSERVATIONS
FROM THE LESSER ANTILLES AND REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE HURRICANE
HUNTER AIRCRAFT. THE SWIRL SOUTHWEST OF GUADELOUPE APPEARS TO BE
PART OF THIS ELONGATED CIRCULATION...BUT IS NOT THE MEAN CENTER OF
THE OVERALL CYCLONIC ENVELOPE. AIRCRAFT DATA ALSO INDICATE THAT
ERIKA IS STILL A TROPICAL STORM. PEAK FLIGHT LEVEL WINDS WERE 44
KT AND SFMR DATA WERE BETWEEN 35-40 KT. HOWEVER THE STRONGEST
WINDS WERE NEAR A LARGE THUNDERSTORM COMPLEX WELL SOUTHEAST OF THE
CENTER AND NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE STORM CIRCULATION. THE
INITIAL INTENSITY WILL BE HELD AT 35 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY.

ERIKA HAS A DIFFICULT ROAD AHEAD WITH INCREASING SHEAR LIKELY AS THE
STORM NEARS THE GREATER ANTILLES. WHILE SOME INTENSIFICATION CAN
NOT BE RULED OUT IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO...ALL OF THE GLOBAL MODELS
SHOW A VERY HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT WITH 20-30 KT SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS
AT 250 MB OVER ERIKA. THESE WINDS ARE FORECAST TO CONTINUE...OR
INCREASE...AS THE STORM MOVES NEAR HISPANIOLA. ALTHOUGH MOST OF THE
INTENSITY GUIDANCE STILL SHOWS RESTRENGTHENING OF ERIKA...THE
GUIDANCE HAS COME DOWN QUITE A BIT FROM THIS MORNING. THE NHC
FORECAST IS LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE...AND SHOWS DISSIPATION OF
THE TROPICAL CYCLONE BY 5 DAYS. ONE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION IS THAT
INTERACTION WITH HISPANIOLA CAUSES AN EVEN FASTER DEMISE OF ERIKA.

THE LONG-TERM MOTION OF THIS SYSTEM IS ABOUT 275/9. DURING THE
NEXT SEVERAL DAYS...THE STORM SHOULD BE STEERED TO THE WEST OR
WEST-NORTHWEST PRIMARILY BY A RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. THE
GLOBAL MODELS HAVE SHIFTED SOUTHWARD WITH THE TRACK FORECAST SINCE
THIS MORNING...PERHAPS DUE TO THE WEAKER INITIAL STATE OF ERIKA.
THE NHC FORECAST IS SHIFTED SOUTHWARD AS WELL...REMAINING WEST OF
THE MODEL CONSENSUS.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 02/2100Z 16.4N 61.7W 35 KT
12HR VT 03/0600Z 16.8N 62.9W 35 KT
24HR VT 03/1800Z 17.4N 64.6W 35 KT
36HR VT 04/0600Z 18.0N 66.4W 30 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 04/1800Z 18.7N 67.9W 30 KT
72HR VT 05/1800Z 20.0N 70.5W 25 KT
96HR VT 06/1800Z 21.5N 73.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW
120HR VT 07/1800Z...DISSIPATED

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348. atmoaggie 8:47 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:
Trying to find the COC is making the HH pilot look like he is on drugs or drunk.. he is all over the sky


Quick, turn reft! No I mean light.
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349. 69Viking 8:48 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting IKE:
...ERIKA NOW IN THE NORTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA...NEW WATCHES AND WARNINGS ISSUED...

Naked swirl is the center.


Yep and still moving West or slightly South of West and not anywhere near the forecast points! Mind of her own that's for sure!
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350. taco2me61 8:48 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
Quoting Baybuddy:
Let's just wait and see...like Erika, my wife is pretty erratic between cycles.


LMAO

Hey there Baybuddy good to see you on here....
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351. Orcasystems 8:48 PM GMT op 02 september 2009    
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