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Ana and TD 3 take aim at the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:17 PM GMT op 15 augustus 2009 +7
Tropical Storm Ana was born this morning, when the remnants of Tropical Depression Two made a comeback and organized into the first tropical storm of the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. Ana is the latest first named storm of the season since Hurricane Andrew got its name on August 17, 1992. The two storms have some similarities, as Andrew formed in the same part of the ocean, and also struggled in its early days with high wind shear and dry air. Let's hope the similarities end there.

Ana is struggling this afternoon. After an modest burst of heavy thunderstorm activity prompted NHC to upgrade Ana to a tropical storm early this morning, Ana has run into strong upper-level winds from the west that are creating high wind shear. This shear was not forecast, and it is not clear how long it will last. The shear has acted to drive dry air into the core of Ana, destroying almost all of Ana's heavy thunderstorms. The low-level center of the storm is now exposed to view, something that often foreshadows the death of a storm. It is possible the shear will destroy Ana, and several models (the GFS and ECMWF) forecast this may be the case. However, the shear forecast calls for shear to drop into the low range, 5 - 10 knots, tonight through Tuesday. If the shear does drop as forecast, Ana should be able to moisten the atmosphere around it sufficiently to protest itself from the dry Saharan air that surrounds it (Figure 1). SSTs are 27°C today, and will increase to 28°C by Sunday. By the time Ana moves into the Bahamas, total ocean heat content rises steeply (Figure 2), and rapid intensification of Ana is possible, if the shear and dry air haven't disrupted the storm. The intensity forecast models, for the most part, predict a steady intensification of Ana to the threshold of hurricane strength five days from now. The HWRF model is on the strong side, predicting a Category 2 hurricane. The GFDL predicts a weak tropical storm five days from now, but that is because the model has Ana passing over the rugged terrain of Hispaniola, something the other models do not predict. In summary, the intensity forecast for Ana has higher than usual uncertainty, and I give equal chances that the storm will be a hurricane--or non-existent--four days from now.


Figure 1. Water vapor image from this morning showing the large area of dry, Saharan air surrounding Ana, and lying to the north of Tropical Depression Three. Image credit: NOAA/SSD

Tropical Depression Three forms, could be Bill later today
QuikSCAT data from this morning and satellite loops revealed that the tropical wave (90L) in the middle Atlantic has finally developed a well developed surface circulation and can be classified as Tropical Depression Three. Recent satellite imagery suggests that TD 3 may already be Tropical Storm Bill. Water vapor imagery (Figure 1) shows that TD 3's center consolidated a few hundred miles south of the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL). Thus, the storm should not be affected by dry air and dust as much as Ana has been. Ana may also act to moisten the atmosphere in front of TD 3, helping protect the storm from the SAL as it edges farther north over the the three days.



Figure 2. Heat content of the ocean, in kJ per square cm. Oceanic heat content steadily increases for Ana and TD 3 as they approach the Lesser Antilles Islands. Oceanic heat content levels of 90 kJ per square cm are frequently associated with rapid intensification of hurricanes. Image credit: University of Miami.

Wind shear is moderate, 15 knots, but is forecast to fall to 10 - 15 knots on days 2 - 5. Sea Surface Temperatures are about 27.5°C, and will remain in the 27.5 - 28°C range the next five days. The combination of low wind shear and sufficiently warm SSTs should allow TD 3 to intensify steadily, and I expect the storm will be at hurricane strength by Wednesday, when it will be near the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Most of our reliable intensity models strengthen TD 3 into a hurricane by Wednesday. Oceanic heat content (Figure 2) increases sharply just before the islands, so TD 3 could be intensifying rapidly as it moves through or just north of the Lesser Antilles on Thursday. TD 3 consolidated farther south than expected, so the track models calling for a more northerly path were probably incorrect. In particular, the ECMWF model, which had TD 3 turning sharply northwestward and missing the Lesser Antilles Islands, was probably much too far to the north in this morning's 00Z run. TD 3 will probably pass very close to the northern Lesser Antilles islands on Wednesday and Thursday.

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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3351. HaboobsRsweet 4:51 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


When you get this link up zoom in tight SW of Tampa you can see it then.

Yea I am tracking with you I see it.
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3352. sfla82 4:51 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting weatherblog:
I think if Ana strengthens it will hit South Florida and recurve up the state. If it stays weak, I think it'll hit the DR, Haiti, and Cuba and definitely dissipate. So, it better start intensifying or it's done.



Its done!!!!
3353. Orcasystems 4:51 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
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3355. TampaMishy 4:51 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting DM21Altestic:
TampaMishy never answered my question. : (
It says no.
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3356. jaxairportman 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
I see a upper level low headead for Florida. how will this play into the week?
3358. stormsurge39 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Does anybody else think that 91L will be stronger than a weak tropical storm by the time it hits land?
3359. KATRINABILOXIGIRL 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting sfla82:


Its done!!!!
now it's my turn GO AWAY!!!
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3360. audioslave8 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
So... Bill is going fishing and Ana is about to die. Looks like the only action the US is going to see is from invest 91L. This turned out to be alot hype. Looking on IR 91L looks more impressive than Ana.
3361. extreme236 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
I do believe Bill could be a hurricane tomorrow
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3362. Stormchaser2007 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
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3363. Dan187 4:52 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Link

Ship at 25.70N 83.10W reporting 8kt winds from 230 degrees.
3364. Progster 4:53 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:
Just found a closed low using the National DAta bouy system......its there....Hope you all can figure out how to use this...


Tampa...if this is the link you used...you're looking at ocean current vectors, not atmospheric winds.
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3365. ConchHondros 4:53 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Well I am out...predictions from the Conch...Bill starts a more northerly track...Ana continues to mystify Rare...91L swells up like a tick on its way to Al/La...and JFV moves out of his moms basement...but keeps the shower curtain...
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3366. code1 4:53 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
serialteg? If you have to ask that. You are one whom I was just speaking of in my last post.

Tropics anyone without hyperbole or me antics?

Dr. M, do you hear us?
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3368. CatastrophicDL 4:53 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Hey Mishy - you ought to tell him you didn't need your magic 8ball for that! How's it going?
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3369. Tazmanian 4:53 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
no way bill will be a fish its too big too make that turn andits moveing too fast
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3370. stillwaiting 4:53 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
winds at 20-25mph here in sarasota a rain band its the 2nd one in a hour and 4th today,TD4 5am,IMO
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3371. Drakoen 4:54 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Bill is getting a lot better organized.
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3372. Stormchaser2007 4:54 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
I do believe Bill could be a hurricane tomorrow


I agree.
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3373. Patrap 4:56 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
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3375. rareaire 4:54 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
I would not call out ana any time soon she's already served crow to many of us on here!!
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3376. weatherblog 4:54 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting sfla82:


Its done!!!!


Possibly. It doesn't look to be intensifying.
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3377. HaboobsRsweet 4:55 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting atmoaggie:

OK, but shouldn't something be showing a SW wind...to the SE of the "center"? And a S wind somewhere E of center? You telling the landbreeze is overcoming the burgeoning TD-4?
Really, just trying to learn from a real met!

The rotation is really tight. It is in its really early stage. Those east winds to the east of the storm is kinda feeding your convergence zone. There is a south wind to the south as well feeding into the center of where the circulation is forming. That is just my opinion. It also is hard to overlook rotation that you can see on radar. You can see the tight spin around where I would expect the center to be. Winds are too light for TD status at the moment. I would expect the next surface anal to have a low there.
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3379. serialteg 4:55 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting rareaire:
dang thing sure seems to be spinning when i lok at it! post 3334


maybe its you who's spinning!
(takes out breathalyzer)
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3380. rareaire 4:55 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Drak is bill going to get the wave you were talking about yesterday if it keeps growing at its current pace?
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3383. stormsurge39 4:56 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
A wise met told me one time, any model more than 3 days out is a crap shoot. weather patterns can change that models cannot predict!!!
3384. tropics21 4:56 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting code1:


From my mouth to your ears press. Am thinking it time to ask the WU masters for a separate blog for those under and over a certain age for here! Still hold to the first years here I suppose. Not near the crap going on now. Young and old in the mix. Old knows, and young think they know. Makes the world go around for sure, but dang sure makes it hard for those of us not under our parents roof's to read intelligent conversation for the most part. There are a few young folks here, I am happy to follow and learn from. Note....I say few, the others just found a forum for their testosterone outlets. Go and get a date guys and gals!!
yup romper room
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3385. TampaSpin 4:57 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting Progster:


Tampa...if this is the link you used...you're looking at ocean current vectors, not atmospheric winds.


You are correct that is ocean SURFACE currents.....which a SURFACE LOW will show up...
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3386. Tazmanian 4:57 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
the fishcaster are out tonight lol
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3388. eye 4:57 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Ana about to die
Bill is going to be a fish (recurve far away from the CONUS)
Blob in the gulf will just be a rain maker

BOY, the tropics are exciting!!!! *yawn*
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3389. TampaMishy 4:57 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Hey Mishy - you ought to tell him you didn't need your magic 8ball for that! How's it going?
It's going great! Nice and breezy here tonite for a change. What about you?
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3390. Stormchaser2007 4:58 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
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3391. CatastrophicDL 4:58 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Ana's lost all her convergence.
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3392. HaboobsRsweet 4:58 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting stormsurge39:
A wise met told me one time, any model more than 3 days out is a crap shoot. weather patterns can change that models cannot predict!!!

While I agree with that quote, each year they do seem to get a little better. I think you can go out to 5 days now but still need some minor adjustments after day 3.
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3393. Tazmanian 4:58 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
Current Intensity Analysis




UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 16 AUG 2009 Time : 041500 UTC
Lat : 11:17:42 N Lon : 36:55:06 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.2 / 997.6mb/ 49.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
3.1 3.4 3.4

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +0.0mb

Center Temp : -13.0C Cloud Region Temp : -43.1C

Scene Type : SHEAR (0.04^ TO DG)

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : ON
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

****************************************************






no keep that is about 5hrs or so old it has not been updateing
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3394. audioslave8 4:58 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
The bigger the storm the more its influenced. The trough looks to be VERY strong and digging in bigtime. If the models are over doing it could hit the Outerbanks or New England.
3396. Tazmanian 4:59 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting DM21Altestic:

See? Taz may not have gotten an "A" in his BCIS class, but he sure knows his tropical weather.


thank you
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3397. atmoaggie 4:59 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting HaboobsRsweet:

Yea I am tracking with you I see it.

I do too, but it has no east to west winds on the north end...the one type the RUC did see. That is nonsensical. If any part should be there, it is that one.

Oh, and I know why. Turn off the 25 hour average, which I think you can agree is bulls*** for this application and you see nothing at all.
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3398. Twinkster 4:59 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting flsky:

Go away.




ok first of all who are you? second of all you have no right to keep telling someone to go way. this is about the 10th time i have seen you say this.

you are now officialy the first person on my ignore list ever
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3399. TexasHurricane 4:59 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Quoting stormsurge39:
A wise met told me one time, any model more than 3 days out is a crap shoot. weather patterns can change that models cannot predict!!!


yeah, I don't know. It may do the north thing, but I am leary....
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3401. jipmg 5:00 AM GMT op 16 augustus 2009    
Models take mr Bill out to sea, all of the models everyone of them...

Models take ana to its death over the caribbean.. some shitfting north, oh well im going to sleep im starting to lose interest in these systems

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